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Years earlier, she had asked a boss if he would let his children fly on a plane with the litany of flaws and non-conformances he was urging her to “pencil-whip”: “Cindy, none of these planes are staying in America, they’re all going overseas,” he retorted, much to her horror.

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[-] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago

I am genuinely curious why on Earth airline companies are still buying Boeing planes. The last 5-10 crashes all included their planes and it is a mystery why their shares didn't tank more.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Airbus has a backlog of 8000 jets. Order one today and it will take a decade before it arrives. So airliners basically have to keep their current fleet flying.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Because the stock market is a fucking scam.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I mean, yes, but what does that have to do with their question?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It is a mystery why their shares didn’t tank more

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

It's gambling for the rich and people who want to be rich.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

It's gambling for the people who want to be rich. It's a bank and tax haven for those who are already rich.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Planes they already have can't really be grounded immediately without replacements. Buying replacements takes time and money. Negotiating contracts also takes time. Pre existing contracts tying a company to boeing probably exist in some places. There's probably some incentive to not drop a somewhat strategic business on a whim. And maybe some people believe that boeing will start pulling their head out of their ass at some point.

And all that would be a hindrance assuming there is a will to stop buying boeing planes, AND move to another, potentially foreign business like Airbus.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Because what are you gonna do? Not fly?

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Yes, that would be the sensible thing to do. Too bad that people are not sensible.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Introducing Space X expedited flights from Florida to anywhere in the world... Remote pickup not included in conflict regions.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

they probably already bought too many of Boeing planes before these accidents happened. So what are they gonna do, put a bunch of Boeing planes in the back room and use Airbus? Still when i fly, I avoid Boeing like a plague. The problem is there are very limited Airbus flights for my route.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Organisational inertia. Planes are expensive, and getting them and qualified personnel to fly and maintain them is a long and complicated process for the airline companies (and the governments supporting the airlines).

They get the news about Boeing being crap, but they can't just reverse a decision in one day, because the decision to go with Boeing was made years or decades ago.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

The real reason is that airlines don’t want a monopoly where there’s only one relevant manufacturer that can dictate airframe prices to them. That’s why you will see almost every airline trying to at least somewhat balance the scales between Airbus and Boeing.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

I hope a third player balances things out. I don't care if it is Bombardier, Embraer, Comac or some other company. Just need the Airbus-Boeing duopoly broken.

[-] [email protected] 65 points 3 days ago

I recently had the privilege of cleaning up code by a big India out sourcing company. The code quality was some of the worst I have seen in my 30 years of programming. Then I found [this article] (https://www.industryweek.com/supply-chain/article/22027840/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers) about the same company writing code for Boeing.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

that was a horrifying read as a software engineer but also as an Indian.

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[-] [email protected] 68 points 3 days ago

A rich executive put the lives of others below penny pinching profits?

I'm shook. 🫩

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago

Boeing…Boeing…Gone!

[-] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago

Boeing: the sound a plane makes when it hits the ground

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

or when the front falls off midflight.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I'll tell you, that's not supposed to happen.

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago

Sounds like the planes Boeing sent to India had foreign object debris rattling around inside conduits.

That’s a ticking time bomb for random electrical failures, such as both engines shutting down right after takeoff.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

If it was from electrical failure, it'd be more likely to happen in the pilot's thrust control than simultaneously in both engines. But usually if both engines fail after take off....my money is on fuel system failure.

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[-] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago

BOEING KILLED JOHN BARNETT

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago

Boeing is run too much by Wall Street.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

Black Rock basically owns the entire stock market. Even the best intentioned companies eventually have to cave to fiduciary duty to shareholders.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago

Black Rock owns absolutely fuck-all. It only manages the 401ks of normal people like you and me, and STOLE OUR SHAREHOLDER VOTING RIGHTS.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Yeah these headlines always grind my gears. Even the equity they don't steal, they leverage as if their own assets. They're fucking mine and yours.

[-] kayky 2 points 2 days ago

That's why going public is a sign the owners no longer care about the business and only care about fleecing us as much as possible.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

What capitalist giant corp isn't?

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Boeing is straight fucking scum, but that was the strangest plane crash I've ever seen. (LOL, like I'm an export.) The truth will out.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

i've seen one, where the plane stalled after taking off and then kinda went backwards, then dove frontal again. if i remember correctly, unsecured cargo was suspected. it fell like a leaf.

found it: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/may/01/747-cargo-plane-crash-bagram-airbase-video

[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

I remember that, if I remember correctly, it was a tank, and they suddenly had a massive CoG shift to the back of the aircraft, causing the plane to pitch up and stall.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

Ya it was military equipment that was not secured appropriately.

[-] kayky 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks for sharing this.

Aside from the promotional material in the video, it's nice to see something that shows the raw footage instead of some talking heads babbling over an edited cut.

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