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[–] 6 points 3 years ago

I skipped Fark, but my progression is largely the same. Once in a blue moon, I still visit Slashdot. It's like checking up on an ex to see how they're doing.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    for me it was just

    reddit --> Lemmy

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    [–] 3 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    The Fediverse seems like an interesting idea, but I hope it actually holds together.

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    [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    Tried the official Reddit app today and boy people weren't joking when they say it sucks. I thought it'd just be the usual experience plus some ads but I was totally wrong.

    The official app doesn't respect your subreddit subscriptions at all, instead force feeding you feeds of whatever their algorithm thinks will drive maximum engagement just like a shit version of Facebook. The "hot" etc functionality is completely stipped from it entirely.

    Guess I'm here to stay on the fediverse now.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    What absolutely sucks about this is that I had carefully curated my subscriptions on RIF in order not to exacerbate my dumb mental health issues.

    Hell, I've read angry posts about people in recovery from addiction and alcohol saying how they keep seeing ads for beer or gambling and things like that.

    It's horrifying!!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    people in recovery from addiction and alcohol saying how they keep seeing ads for beer or gambling

    Not that this is how it works, but I imagine a diligent algorithm looking at those individuals and that content, and then thinking "mhhmm this will generate maximum revenue!!".

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    You're missing the precursors:

    Email -> Newsgroups -> CGI forums / IRC -> Slashdot... :)

    The new Fediverse really is kicking up IRC and newsgroup vibes for this old timer. Its very exciting.

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    [–] 2 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    It'll be great to see more people showing up on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    People are so confused and overwhelmed about the fediverse mechanics though.

    Maybe there is room for a product that is an aggregator for aggregators. Like, a centralised service that scrapes and collects all Lemmy instances into one super instance.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    I don't think such an aggregator is required. Interoperability is smooth enough that you don't have to think about different instances most of the time. I've only really noticed two points that would be confusing:

    • the sign up process
    • the "local"/"all" distinction

    So I think what we really need to do to make this platform intuitive to people that aren't already familiar with it is:

    • Somehow streamline signing up. The process from googling Lemmy to having an account on an instance should not be confusing or intimidating.
    • Filter by "all" by default. The default should cater to the users which are less likely to figure it out themselves. If you don't understand what instances are and what "local" vs "all" means, then you are probably here for the "all" experience. If you understand and really want "local" you are probably fine having to set it yourself.
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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Its actually simple. Tell them, its like Email. You have an email account at gmail, but can perfectly fine have email conversation with someone on outllook. Lemmy instance = the same as a web email interface of any email provider. Most people will get their head around that.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    The one true constant for me is 4chan 😅

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I used 4chan when I was younger but trying to go back after reddit was super depressing, I lasted about 5 minutes.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    It's funny to read this article about the death of Digg again:

    In reality, Digg changed their business model and pretended that they didn’t. That is something that is unacceptable with communities and won’t be forgotten. Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian hit the nail on the head in an open letter to (now former) Digg CEO – Kevin Rose:

    “You chose to grow with venture capital and you’ve no doubt (I hope) taken some money off the table in your Series C round. I say this because this new version of digg reeks of VC meddling. It’s cobbling together features from more popular sites and departing from the core of digg, which was to “give the power back to the people.”
    

    https://searchengineland.com/digg-v4-how-to-successfully-kill-a-community-50450>

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    [–] 2 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    Same fucking journey as you. Reddit was a good run for 10 years, let's see if Lemmy can work.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    What do we do if it doesn't? Just crawl back and apologize?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    I don't think so. Although many will remain with Reddit, there is no incentive or loyalty for a significant % to do so. If reddit is shit, why not just use FB, Twitter or regular message boards? Already I saw many subreddits have discords already.

    The question for most of those users is there a lesser evil in choosing one bad company over another? Unfortunately I just see this community content becoming fragmented as a result and no winners emerging.

    I like Lemmy / kbin but I am concerned that a dev could just shutdown their server and a community, accounts are gone. Who pays the server bills, and maintenance backups etc? This seems incredibly problematic.

    Beyond that they need a strong mobile app and 3P devs, a tool to read a users reddit profile and subscribe to similar channels, one click registration without selecting a server. It would be good to also have a mechanism for showing cross-platform posted content in a single view.

    If honestly feels like the 90s wild west Internet days again. No alternative I have seen so far can address these concerns.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, since there's no central site to shut down, Lemmy failing would pretty much just mean that it stagnates and some of the bigger instances shut down, at which point there still would be some remnant of it left to stay on, if a smaller one. Failing that, it isn't the only reddit alternative that people have been working on, so maybe one of the others will be more successful.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Nah. If Lemmy/Fediverse doesn't work out, there will be others. This has all happened before..

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    If the fediverse idea doesn't work out and it's yet another company the cycle is bound to continue.

    A big chance is in front of us to break the cycle!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. Decentralization is the way to go and I hope Lemmy succeeds. This particular implementation may or may not work out long term, but the underlying idea is sound.

    We'll get it. Might take a couple tries, but we'll get it.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I had the same journey but I'm pretty sure I found Slashdot by way of boingboing which I found by way of Diesel Sweeties blog posts when I first got a DSL connection in 2002 and was looking for comics and blogs to fill up my trendy new RSS reader lol

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    [–] 2 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    So many long forgotten relics and old friends lost to time.

    bbs, usenet, irc, aol chat rooms, aim/icq/msn messenger (by the way, anyone remember Trillian?), geocities web-rings, various phpBB forums (shoutout neopages), oekaki drawing boards, livejournal, stumbleupon,

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    by the way, anyone remember Trillian?

    I never used it, but I did use similar things like Kopete and Pidgin. Both of those still exist and are still maintained, by the way, albeit far less useful now that the big four instant messaging systems are gone. Of those four, only ICQ still exists, and I doubt it still uses the same protocol, seeing as the old one wasn't encrypted.

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