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[+] 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Is this the rumoured Xbox handheld that everyone has been going on about for months?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I still think the real XBox handheld is another 2-5 years out. This is Microsoft dipping their toes in the water and the ROC is a great system to start that partnership

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Steam Deck appreciator myself and this does seem like a good starting point for Xbox. I’m interested to see how it progresses over the years.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Not saying I'd get one, but I am a Xbox gamer. It's where the majority of my purchases are. I hardly play PC because I just don't like sitting at a desk, when I'm in a desk chair most of the day. I maybe have 3-4 games on steam, but my PC is getting old just found out even though my graphics card can do ray tracing, my processor is only 2.9ghx and recommended min is 3.2 and can't run the new doom game.

    So if you were to get one would you stay with the steam deck or wait for the Asus?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I believe I read somewhere else that idea/project was taken back to the workshop and this is something else but close to that.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I also read that they stopped the project of building an official Xbox handheld to focus on 3rd party hardware. Because otherwise the delay would make them not launch at the same time than the home console.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Only it doesn't run Xbox games. 🤡

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    To Microsoft, everything is an Xbox.

    At least that's their marketing atm.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'd say it'll backfire when people can't play those odd Xbox games that for some reason never came to PC, but there's so few people using Xboxes anyway, I doubt it's going to matter. They've well and truly dropped the ball since the Xbox 360, and don't really show any signs of being interested in picking it up again.

    Everything just points to them making enough money from everything else to not really care. This is as token an effort as it's possible to make in the handheld space.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    LTT describes that the XBOX team have also trimmed down 2GB of W11 desktop bloat with this and have attempted to make the W11 experience more similar to a console. I'm curious to follow this. I'd imagine Microsoft are a bit intimidated by the fact that SteamOS is a better handheld gaming OS than Windows. Obviously this must have been in the pipeline for a long time now.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I would be interested if it also supported quick resume from sleep like the Deck does. Imo that's the killer SteamOS feature that's keeping Windows alternatives from being even a consideration.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    If they implemented Direct Resume I might cave and reinstall Windows on my Ally.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    But what for? Nothing makes it better, even if you would get this equivalent feature.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have an Xbox Series S for my little one and Direct Resume is such a nice QoL feature. Having 8 games always ready and only takes 3 seconds to resume even after you turned off and unplug the console is very useful. There’s some games on my handheld PC I didn’t bother playing since launching it can take a long time.

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  • [+] 16 points 1 year ago
    [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Sounds like yet another great handheld device [to install SteamOS on]!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    At least the internet crowd went :

    Silksooooooooooong ! New images and half revealed date of "you will be able to play it on day one". So either same launch day or a bit before. 2nd time (after the switch 2 trailer) that they mention silksong for this year. So maaaaybe ?

    Oh by the way, why are the image shown at an angle? Is it really only to showcase the console? Whatever.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is sick if the pricing is good.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    I am whelmed. Never been the biggest mobile gamer, will skip

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    It probably should have released a could months ago, pre switch2 hype.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I suspect handhelds are going to be the future for awhile now. It's not just out of a growing demand or simply because portable graphics processing and battery power have improved (although those factors do help) but it's another chance to:

    1. Push locked hardware
    2. Funnel to controlled storefronts
    3. Bring down and moderate the increasingly unsustainable AAA development costs

    Those first two aren't particularly surprising, they're the key elements that Nintendo has honed in on while Sony and particularly Microsoft continue to struggle. Microsoft feels like they've just left XBox to languish while they focus on Game Pass as a means to ensnare you into their economy which is why they're first down this path, but I think Sony will follow shortly. In an ideal world, I'd love to see Sony get back to hardware manufacturing with a Vita like device you could load Linux/SteamOS onto. Vita was a great little product, done so dirty. EDIT: I know the Portal exists, but that's mostly just a dumb receiver as far as I understand it. Still, they're already not too far off ... come on guys, just a little further.

    But moreover it's that last point, really. It's hard to continue to push out these extraordinarily big budget, bordering on AAAA (lol) territory games that continue to flop. I know the Switch 2 is already doing stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, but that stuff can still be hell on battery life as well as requiring lower resolution and lowered visuals in portable mode.

    I feel like Nintendo is making a big mistake pushing that 4K60 envelope with the Switch 2, although I see why they made that maneuver. The Switch was perpetually underpowered and they felt the need to close that gap, but they already struggle to push out big budget tentpole franchises as is illustrated by Mario Kart World being the only big release title. Also, I just want to generally point this out, Nintendo suffers from needing to up the stakes. It's what lead to Mario Galaxy being such a grand adventure, then Odyssey going even bigger than that. Now we have Kart World because ... gotta get bigger than 8 Deluxe somehow I guess.

    I don't know what any of this means or where it's going, I just wanted to try and call out some of these observations. Turbulent times ahead, I don't know that anyone really knows what the next 2-3 years will look like.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    I know the Switch 2 is already doing stuff like Cyberpunk 2077

    It's 4 1/2 years old and already runs on other handhelds. Not really an impressive feat.

    they already struggle to push out big budget tentpole franchises as is illustrated by Mario Kart World being the only big release title.

    Yeah, I read that they only released something like 22 original titles in the 8 years the Switch has been around. That's not counting any ports, remasters, and the like, which make up a hefty chunk of their Switch releases. They got away with it before because so few people had a Wii U, but they need to up their game to make the Switch 2 appealing to the masses, especially with the high price tag. It's not a promising start, with announced titles being Donkey Kong Bananza (which looks great) and a whole bunch of Switch 1 upsells, including Metroid Prime 4, which will be released for both consoles. Feels like they're trying to cannibalize their Switch 1 releases the way they did their Wii U ones, but 150 million Switches were sold. People already played these games if they were interested in them.

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  • [+] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Anyone member when IBM decided it was an “ideas company” or some bullshit like that?

    I mean, they still make more than I do, but when was the last time anybody thought of IBM?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    For consumer electronics? Probably a long time. For industrial applications? Quite often.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That’s true, it took them 10-15 years but they built a huge service business. I was specifically referring to the loss of the desktop market to the “clones” which has a rough equivalence.

    It was more of a cheap shot than a serious prediction ☺️ As long as MS controls the licensing and software this is a completely logical move.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    If I had more disposable income I would probably get one, but the global economy is so garbage right now I can barely afford my basic utilities.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    And yet, they still think they're too good to put track pads on it.

    I don't think these companies are aware that what made the deck popular was it knew what it was and that it had a lot to prove, and so it featured a very focused design that differentiated it from PCs as a worthwhile form factor, but also provided methods for adding compatibility to just about any game, and thus allowed it to compensate for being in a form factor that is just sometimes inherently inconvenient for PC gaming. It wasn't just a gaming pc with an Xbox controller taped to it, which this is.

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