Is Dark Brandon a 4d chess pro-union mastermind? Reddit’s intelligentsia discuss Biden’s upcoming picket-line photo-op (hexbear.net)

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https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/16poce0/biden_to_join_the_picket_line_in_uaw_strike/k1sj2o0/

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This thread in particular got to me today

The cognitive dissonance required to think Biden is on some leftist hot streak (ie Dark Brandon) is too fucking immense for me to handle

They get so close to asking the right questions and then some loser comes in and says something like “no you see, Biden crushed the rail strike because he’s on the side of unions” and just repeat the same weak rationalization in 38 other comments (Biden admin supposedly helped ONE of the many rail unions get ONE concession a few months later) and so now we’re supposed to be like “oh shit, Biden is fucking amazing for workers, whelp, off to the voting booths for me! Sign me up for another round of this guy!” completely ignorant of how it is transparently for optics before the next election, before he goes back to actively repressing labor

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[-] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago

We have to bust the unions to save the unions

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

They're not even hiding it. They say "we have to bust the unions to protect the economy" straight up

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Oh, I'm pro-labour and believe in XYZ, I voted for X person, but listen, these idiotic people who have no education in politics or economics have no idea what they're doing when they ask for increased pay, or go on strikes, or try to create unions, or ask for basic labor rights. I think their lack of knowledge about the wage-price spiral is really disheartening and they're sabotaging their own campaign when they ask for more pay, as that will cause prices to increase equally (who the fuck is John Weston?). The economic impact of the strikes will just decrease the amount of money their already bare-bones companies can afford to pay them. Really sad to see these poor, poor people destroy themselves, as a pro-labour guy."

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

It's just trickle down economics with extra ~~steps~~ propaganda.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

If price increases in direct proportion to wages, then let's pay people nothing so everything is free blob-no-thoughts

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I do genuinely wonder what pro union things Biden has done in his career? They always say he's vocally pro-unions, is that it? He just says he likes unions? What material things has he done to make unions stronger?

[-] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago

Why do libs assume everyone wants to leave a positive leftist legacy. What if he wants to leave a legacy of "busted most union strikes."

And I did it as a dem on a dry year, Jack! biden-rember

[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago

This is paid astroturfing

[-] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

I hope so. But I've been on Reddit since before it was worth astroturfing and they've always been like this. They see the world as if it was an episode of West Wing.

I'd definitely prefer astroturfing to real people behaving like that though so I choose to believe.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

There's nothing redditors love more than ceding ground in a fight that they won't feel a single effect from

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

"It's a simply a tactical retreat in order to make a back room deal. My favorite politician is a shrewd deal maker and knows what's best for the peasantry" they say as they sip their franzia and caress their photo of Aaron Sorkin

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

there's a lot of astroturfing on reddit but it only works because the mostly american male college student demographic of political reddit is genuinely awful

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

They're already writing Biden hagiographies before he's out of power.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Biden probably needs an aide to help him pull up his pants and I'm supposed to believe he's some brilliant mastermind?

He's at the point in life where his family members should be talking about how they need to take away his car keys

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

You're doing mental torture/warfare on me and I won't stand for it

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

so now we’re supposed to be like “oh shit, Biden is fucking amazing for workers, whelp, off to the voting booths for me! Sign me up for another round of this guy!

Yea basically.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

:yea: i do think its better to have Biden over Trump for striking workers within the U.S. because how much more hostile Republicans are towards labor rights. but this Biden being based epic anti-imperialist pro-worker President is very silly.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

it's the same as always, Biden will fuck them while telling them he's on their side whereas someone else would just fuck them straight up

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

Biden is doing what the unions wanted him to do.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

which is what the ruling class wanted because they're all on the same team

at least the management of the unions is anyway

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Power dynamics

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

They are doing a meme. But even the management in many unions opposed Biden. Being a manager doesn't automatically make you a PMC, since good orgs do exist.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

the uaw is definitely not one of the good ones however

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Mainline "Political" Reddit is

Bots
People who get their opinions from bots

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

The first highlighted comment in the image is basically Tucker Carlson-esque "just asking questions" strategy of implying something but not proving it. Then if it sounds plausible, people just run with it, and with enough repetition it becomes consensus.

What if Biden is thinking about his legacy? What if he's thinking about cosplaying leftism before he croaks? Oh you're calling me a liar? I was just asking questions.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

JAQing off I believe they call it

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

I truly enjoy all the comments on that post.

BUT, WHAT ABOUT (ISM) DONALD J. TRUMP? Would HE do a cynical photo op with his oblivious supporters??? I think NOT!!

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

This is kind of a big deal

was probably in the subject of the daily democrat shill email for cringeposters. Ive seen it said on almost every post about biden going to do a photo op with strikers.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

sometimes i have to remind myself that there are just a lot more idiots in the world than not and it's not worth having an aneurysm thinking about it

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Uh oh he's onto us! https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/16poce0/biden_to_join_the_picket_line_in_uaw_strike/k1s760t/

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