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How it feels seeing Switch 2 discourse in the comments section of a meme mocking all sides of Switch 2 discourse:
Every switch owner I know has a terrible opinion of the switch 2s price and the new 90$ price tag they started for games.
Meanwhile more and more people around me are buying a steam deck, I have converted 4 people last year alone. Even my nephew has one and is happy with it.
I loved my Switch. I'm not even considering buying a Switch 2. I'll just stick to pc gaming.
That's such a great way to phrase that.
The switch 2 has a lot more competition than the switch had, and hasn't made up much ground.
People around me have a different sort of take. Most of them have big powerful desktops already, and Deck doesn't really appeal to them, so they all ended up buying Switch 1s eventually for the exclusives and portable use, and will likely follow with Switch 2. Deck is still amazing value though, considering it's a full Linux PC you can take anywhere and use how you wish.
The people around me argue the exact opposite. When they have a desktop, they already have a hige library of games that they dont have to ourchase. But even the ones that dont have a desktop usually get persuaded when I tell them waht some games cost during sales.
I don't have a Switch, but back with the Wii I got one despite being a big PC gamer because its games were so different from the PC, PS or Xbox games.
And the Switch 2 will probably sell as many consoles in the first week as the Deck did in its entire lifetime. They're just not in the same league.
But the Switch 2 will very probably also not nearly sell as much as the Switch 1. But Nintendo probably already know that. The next generation will be the interesting console. Who knows what they will come up with. Maybe they'll manage to somehow make VR more accessible.
Edit: And I'm answering to a 3 day old comment...
Yes, I agree that the Steam Deck is a lot more niche. But nintendo has a lot bigger goal to fullfill, especially because they are shareholder driven. The Wii U sold twice as much as the steam deck now but it was considered a major flop still. I think the switch 2 will go the same route if they don’t lower the price to 300$. Especially since it has an even worse screen than the OLED switch.
Fair enough. Steam sales are a pathway to deals some consider unnatural, or so the saying goes. Especially with things like Humble Bundle.
I love my steam deck. It's the reason why I finally ditched Windows for Linux on my gaming PC.
This past week I got into emulation on it and have been shocked at how well it has been performing.
My friend was ok with $90 price tag because he doesn't buy many games, as for me hard pass to switch 2 and its games.
He still wont be buying games. He'll buying a cart with a key that will allow him to access leased games, for so long as nintendo decides to run the service.
Nintendo didn't start $90 games.
They just announced it first.
Yeah, and fuck the studios for it. It's not like the money is going to the people who are actually working on the games. It goes to the CEOs. So fuck them. There are enough games in the world I haven't played to last me a lifetime. I will not be buying anything new. But I will be sailing the high seas.
Publishers. Not studios. Lots of indie studios are putting out amazing games for ten or twenty bucks.
One of Nintendo's problems is that they are their own publisher.
There are plenty of games that aren't $90 and are actually worth the values they charge. Not everything is priced like a AAA dev pushing their yearly slop of their main franchise.
Super expensive, low quality cameras and mics, a janky looking chat, an okay screen, and having to buy games, some of which are years old (Looking at you BOTW), for more than their original buying prices. It's just greed. It's always greed. They saw PS and Xbox selling at already crazy prices and just tried to put the switch 2 in there like it's worth a car payment, or even up to a month's rent if you want the system, a few games, and a working camera (since the cheaper one is only 480p). And they're just coming out and saying they'll be monitoring your screen and chats (which I think more companies do than we think). And they'll brick your machine if they see any mods or emulations. Want to add a fun mod to Mario party? Get bricked, bitch.
If S2 looks appealing, I would highly recommend looking into the steam deck. I don't even have the steam deck and this whole promotion cycle has me eyeing it hard which how awful they're making the S2 launch.
I like my steam deck. It plays basically everything on steam whether it’s verified or not. Even games that don’t work well on it will still run.
Poor battery life means it’s tethered to the wall unless you’re just emulating or playing low end games.
The switch 2 will be cheaper on the secondary market and they will make a “lite” version that is cheaper or a “pro” version that makes the original cheaper. It never makes sense to buy a brand new console outside of keeping up with the joneses.
Or the Legion Go!
What's going on?
Someone did something and, predictably, someone else bitched about it because reasons. Or something. Probably?
Unless something new has happened, it's because the switch 2 is expensive and the games are overpriced
Something about Nintendo putting bricking your console into the license agreement if you screw with it at all.
Wuuuh? Guess they didn't like people hacking the first one ..
Its expensive, and over priced, and you don't own it despite buying it.
I've no idea what the discourse is like today but from what I recall:
Have things changed?
Millions of Steam Decks and their ilk have been sold, and run games significantly better on SteamOS than their Windows counterparts, to the point that Microsoft is reportedly cancelling their own gaming handheld plans. Not a massive challenger to the Switch 2 for most ordinary people, but things are definitely changing.
Microsoft are likely going to keep on trying anyway, Deck is too big of a threat to their Windows gaming monopoly for them to ignore it. Just look at how they managed to get so many Windows handheld models out of the door seemingly minutes after the Deck released with its Linux based SteamOS. Their worst nightmare is people having a viable alternative to their platforms.
Kinda agree, but the consoles already are alternatives to Windows. Don't really see what's super special about the Steam Deck, tbh.
Surprised Microsoft hasn't made some sort of DRM to prevent Xbox studio games from being played on Proton, though.
The special sauce of the Deck isn't really what it's running (it's just Arch with some extra Steam stuff on top), it's more that it's something you can just buy and use without even thinking twice about anything - a more console like experience. To get a Linux handheld with that kind of performance before, you would have to go through all kinds of hoops and trouble to get it working (a lot of people aren't ready to reinstall the OS on a device they just bought), plus a lot of games just would not work well. Deck gave pressure on game makers to ensure Proton compatibility at launch, as it gives them an established market who would appreciate it.
PC gaming and console gaming are two very different markets, due to the open nature of PCs. Until recently, Microsoft has had a monopoly on all of it and the ability to control the environment it happens in, if not what happens in said environment. They do not want to lose that. That's actually kinda the reason Valve started making steam machines in the first place, because they realized that their cash cow was dependent entirely on an operating system that might figure out a way to cut them out and they'd have no recourse.
I feel so old that genesis isnt on that list.
I would say JRPG is on par or better on Switch, than Playstation nowadays.
i'm not up to date on general console discourse. but i know for a fact Nintendo, though never famous for being cheap, has been going mental lately. $80 for Mario Kart is mind boggling
Ahh, the push i needed to NOT fall into microsoft.
"Genesis does what Nintendon't!"
"Oh yeah? Well Nintendon't suck so I guess Genesis does."
"Bitch, please. You don't even got blood in Mortal Kombat."
"AT LEAST THE MUSIC DOESN'T SOUND LIKE FARTS!"
My comment is got blast processing, so I win
Holy shit that is a blast from the past.
I remember the days where you either did what Nintendon't or you were green or blue
Good ol' dayz
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