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[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Online software development life cycle in a nutshell:

Startup - Geeks are in charge and you're creating a cool communications platform.
Mature - Accountants are in charge and you're gamifying ad clicks.

[-] [email protected] 142 points 4 days ago

I admittedly haven't looked very hard for an alternative. But I fully expect to be forced to move elsewhere in the next year or two due to their increasingly belligerent chasing of profits.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

If you're after text, there are a number of options. If you're after group voice, there are a number of options. You could mix and match both, but "where everyone else is" will also likely be a factor in that kind of decision.

If you want both together, then there's probably just Element (Matrix + voice)? Not sure of other options that aren't centralised, where you're the product, or otherwise at obvious risk of enshittifying. (And Element has the smell of the latter to me, but that's another topic).

I've prepared for Discord's inevitable "final straw" moment by setting up a Matrix room and maintaining a self-hosted Mumble server in Docker for my gaming buddies. It's worked when Discord has been down, so I know it works. Yet to convince them to test Element...

[-] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Same. I just hope my friend group and by some extension the gaming community chooses something that won't fall into the same pitfal of closed source for profit organizations.

I hope the transition is towards matrix, or something like it.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

The replacement is matrix.

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago

How in the hell has that app gone so far down? This must be a record in enshittification.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Mark my words, any free service that hosts images is on the cycle. I saw it happen to Reddit and Imgur

Promising to host everyone's data for free forever is a promise that only a devil at a crossroads can make

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

I warned my friends that Discord is looking to go public. Just wait, it's going to get a lot worse.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I don't know if you saw the news last month but Discord just replaced a founder with a former Activision-Blizzard exec as CEO.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Well that fucking sucks.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

The end is coming

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What a funny coincidence that I've heard about this discord alternative in a post just a couple before this one in feed.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

discord orbs

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

What's the exchange rate of Discord Orbs to Stanley Nickels?

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

How do I bot this so I don't see the ads and get free nitro so ads are removed?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

No need, use discord canary.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Oooh yeah, dust off the hotline auto clickers.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

The lesson of Pay-To-Surf will keep being taught by reality until it gets taught in business school.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

americans LOVE enshittifications.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago

They truly have zero clue how users actually use their software. Not a single person is going to use this just like every other stupid gimmick feature they've added in the past and then promptly removed.

[-] [email protected] 75 points 4 days ago

You couldn't be more wrong.

People actually use the shop. they are spending $10-20 on a profile picture border. Now you are telling them that they can get them for "free"? You bet people will do it. Paid cosmetics have poisoned minds.

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[-] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago

Users on reddit and lemmy always seem to think ad-based stuff is going to fail, and then it turns out people in the real world are depressingly accepting of ads. I would bet that this program is more likely to be expanded than canceled.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Fuck this shit.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

how good of an alternative is matrix to discord?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not great. It's missing discord features like screen sharing and voice rooms (only sort of has them through a third party app, Jitsi, but that experience is... not great).

It also has moderation issues, lacking tools needed to keep spam out and easily control it when it does get in.

I recently deleted my account because there was a spam wave sending out room invites to anti-trans named rooms, and there's no way to mass ignore, you have to click on every invite, click 'ignore' and wait like 15-30 seconds for the server to process.

Related to the above it has performance issues, a lot of UI actions wait for the server to respond, so just have a long delay to them making the user experience feel really crummy.

There are also a bunch of different client apps all with their own features, one will support X but not support Y and the other way around for another app, and there's no guide on what app to use so that's confusing.

Overall it feels like alpha or very early beta software, it works if you're willing to deal with a lot of headache.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Not as feature rich, quite buggy, inherently more private but also less usable.

The above compounds when trying to get the non-techies to use it, because sometimes it doesn’t just work

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

Next thing you know the 'orbs' will be NFTs and we'll all be expected to grind away at their 'quests' (probably training AI) to earn 'real money'.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Chortle my orbs

[-] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

RIP Discord.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

enshittification is full force now

[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

Jesus Christ (● ˃̶͈̀ロ˂̶͈́)੭ꠥ⁾⁾.

There is one community I’m active in on Discord, and it’s a very wholesome and positive one id hate to lose, but damn I’m hating Discord.

Is there a CLI Discord client for Linux? I could tolerate that.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

You can host your own matrix instance then bridge discord (and everything else from LinkedIn messenger to WhatsApp) to matrix with double puppeting so people won’t even realise you’re not on discord.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

Wanna see my orbs on discord?

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Wel there goes my discord account. Bye you won’t be missed

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Realistically tho, until participation becomes mandatory you can ignore quests and orbs and just keep doing what you're doing.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

"please ponder your verification orb"

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Nah, switching takes time. Better start now.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

Is there a peer to peer equivalent to Discord? That feels like it would be the best option, since it wouldn't rely on a centralized company that could enshittify the product.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago

Only option available is Matrix. It has its problems, but they're being worked on.

Right now it lacks the gaming/voice chat parts of discord - so for an OSS alternative for that part of discord specifically, there's Mumble.

For everything else, Matrix is a good alternative. Just be sure to pick a discord-like client. (E.g. Commet or Cinny)

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