Best part of this is that they just won the contract for launch services even though they still haven't proven the thing can fly without blowing up yet.
Well, they still have the smaller rockets that usually don't blow up.
"Uh, yeah, it was supposed to do that. We learn a lot from billion dollar failures."
I thought it said SpaceX lost a contract and got excited for a moment
Yeah. I don't like having this response because I feel like anything that increases our reach and activity in space is a positive step. It's unfortunate that spacex has musk's shitty fingerprints all over it.
aw man, same
I remember a NASA engineer saying that if NASA had half the failures that SpaceX has had in its early days they would have been disbanded as an organization and their funding pulled completely.
Yet this private org somehow gets bailed out again and again and again and again and again all while not only wasting massive tax payer money, but also causing a hell of a lot of waste. SpaceX is the waste fraud and abuse that should be trashed, not the national park service.
thats why he moved to texas, less regulations there.
Just for comparison, on their 9th test flight the Apollo program they had already successfully reached orbit 5 times.
The 9th test flight of the Soyuz was their 7th time reaching orbit.
Elon's 9th attempt is his second time reaching the bottom of the Indian ocean. Shows the level of proficiency in spacex.
It concerns me from a standpoint that is similar to Oceangate - the engineers are probably aware something is going wrong, but money is getting the final say. Then the people on one of these things end up dying, and it won't be Musk.
I'm also concerned because this lax approach to engineering is becoming more apparent in the private sector. Engineers have a very difficult job -traditionally balancing budget, schedule, and quality. But we also are vital in ensuring regulatory compliance, safety, disposal, process, efficiency etc.
Engineer salaries, however, have stagnated like the rest of American workers. It's true we still get paid better, but compared to how much the salary got you in the 80s-90s, we get much less.
Private sector engineers are largely not PEs as we're shielded by our employers. We are more worried about being laid off than fucking up a project to the point lives get risked.
Part of this is why I chose to no longer work on systems that can cause injuries/ harm to a user. If I'm doing that, I can assume I'm not alone. If those of us consciously avoiding it because of fears of hurting users, it might mean that the ones working on the systems aren't motivated by safety of the user.
Oceangate, stockton basically cut corners on everything. hence he got killed by his owned hubris.
The one good thing from oceangate was the fact that the CEO trusted his own life to his invention. He was in the sub when it imploded.
As stupid as he is, musk is unfortunately smart enough to know not to risk his own life in his own rockets.
he was use defective airplane parts as part of the hull, carbonfiber, instead of steel or titanium subs. he went supercheap, since his rides are 150k/per person. while the one james cameron was in was the titanium sub, which is 6-10mil per ride.
And while both of those programs weren't starting from zero, like Apollo learned from Mercury and Gemini, SpaceX should have learned from all of them.
spacex is also not starting from zero. They previously made the falcon 9.
They don't seem to be using what they learned from that, though.
The Saturn V's 9th flight was the third time it took humans to the moon...
~~Apollo 9~~ Apollo 8 went to the moon but they had multiple test flights prior to that numbering. Those are a more reasonable point of comparison.
Edit: I misremembered the number.
Apollo 9 did not go to the moon. It was earth orbit rendezvous practice with the command module and the lunar lander module. Apollo 8 flew to and around the moon. Apollo 10 flew to the moon and lowered the lander (but not to the surface) and rendezvoused with the command module. Apollo 11 was the first to land on the moon.
Next time put that Nazi fuck Elon in it.
It seems like destiny for that to be how dies. Killed by his own hubris like Mr. Expired carbon fiber submarine.
i wonder if he would even go into one of his rockets anymore.
Damn, I thought it said "loses contract."
Governments are still going to throw money at anything this guy does. Useful idiots couldn't have been more useful a few years ago.
Musk reaction video:
I guess you have to call a place on solid ground Starbase when everything you build to carry building supplies into space to build a Starbase fails.
ship loses attitude control and burns up on reentry
Welcome back, starship flight 3
Elons not a nazi, because nazis are good at making rockets
They are actually more alike than you suggest:
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