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submitted 6 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

I first ran into the Copilot integration in Notepad a couple of days ago and immediately turned it right the fuck off.

In November, Microsoft began testing an update that allowed users to rewrite or summarize text in Notepad using generative AI. Another preview update today takes it one step further, allowing you to write AI-generated text from scratch with basic instructions (the feature is called Write, to differentiate it from the earlier Rewrite).

Like Rewrite and Summarize, Write requires users to be signed into a Microsoft Account, because using it requires you to use your monthly allotment of Microsoft's AI credits. Per this support page, users without a paid Microsoft 365 subscription get 15 credits per month. Subscribers with Personal and Family subscriptions get 60 credits per month instead.

Microsoft notes that all AI features in Notepad can be disabled in the app's settings, and obviously, they won't be available if you use a local account instead of a Microsoft Account.

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[-] [email protected] 94 points 6 days ago

"Barely maintained"

Notepad was a very simple application. Did it even need more effoet put into it? Looks more like they fixed what was not broken.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago

I like dark mode and tabs. Now I actually use it a lot more. I don't like adding a gibberish generator...

[-] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

They should've stopped at support for utf-8 encoding and unix line endings.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

This. It needed absolutely nothing added to it. You could write text files, what more did anyone ever need from it? The app was done. It was ready.

This is a concept that is not even in the vocabulary of IT companies these days and I can understand it for complex systems that have dependencies up the wazoo but notepad was just a notepad and that was good enough.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

There were a few things that it eventually got but lacked for way too long like support for UNIX line endings.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

It was definitely lacking in core areas. Large files, better search, possibly spell check (and why isn't spell check core Windows functionality?). It also could have used better handling for non-Windows text files. But overall, yes, this wasn't a program that needed a dedicated team to manage or improve.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

(and why isn’t spell check core Windows functionality?)

It actually is, introduced in Windows 8, it's just taken devs ages to actually start using it (Notepad only got it last year, 12 years after it was introduced)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Do all that but just without all the AI crap.
Thank you very much.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

If Windows was actually good, you could have it take a question and paste the results into Notepad without having to add AI there. If it was really good, the AI segment would be optional.

[-] [email protected] 52 points 5 days ago

Counterpoint:

In 3.5 years, Notepad.exe has gone from “perfect text-only editor” to “ai-laden spyware/malware”

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

And they killed Wordpad for that.

Now I didnt use wordpad at all and was content with txt and md files.
But that is vile.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I actually did use WordPad occasionally, but it wasn't a huge loss for me, since LibreOffice does this. LO is just too overpowered for a quick RTF edit, so I used WordPad. Besides work, I only windows for a specific usecase, not as a daily, but it was still annoying.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Problem: Not enough AI training data. Solution: Start scraping everything people type in Notepad, errors and all.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

They don't need notepad for that. They control your entire OS, and all inputs. All they need to do, is capture all inputs (which they already do and package it all nicely as Recall). They're using notepad as just a user-facing justification for the spying they do throughout the rest of the OS.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

As always, when notepad.exe is suddenly connecting to the internet, you can be sure something's wrong.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago
[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago
[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I shall take a peek. I don't plan on upgrading to W11 so notepad won't even be a thing anymore anyways.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

KWrite is what you want

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Oh wait, if you are not familiar with Vim or Neovim, then this won't be for you probably. It works completely different compared to a regular text editor and is somewhat complicated and for terminal. There are benefits to it why that is, but just so you know its not a "normal" editor. This is just a warning. :D

In example the keys h, j, k, l are used to move the cursor in the editor and every key is a special command basically. You have to switch into editing mode to type in text.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I tried vi in college and still haven't been able to exit. (exaggeration, of course, but dear god, that made Notepad seem user friendly) When in Linux, I tend to use Kate and nano.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, you kinda need to know this before opening it. I was first introduced to vim in a uni course, so it was written out in the assignment text. But with emacs I had to throw the comouter away.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Actually Vi is not Vim. Vim is a lot user friendly with its documentation. The question is, what you expect and if you learn it properly. Its not unser unfriendly, its just different. It's like saying GIMP is user unfriendly, because you used Photoshop before and GIMP is not exactly the same.

end of my rant :D

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I've used vim in the past, normally stuck with nano though. It won't be a big shock with how different it is. My daily driving is current windows so never bothered with much else other than notepad++ but come October I'm formatting all drives in my house to rid myself of anything windows related and starting fresh with some Linux flavor. Most likely ubuntu or mint, haven't settled yet

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I cycled through a number of distros a few years back on my mini HTPC before finally settling on KDE Neon. The amount of customization with panels and such is insane. I started by trying to recreate the Windows experience (which is dead simple) but soon branched out to having multiple panels, which can be autohidden individually. Settings on the left side of the screen, power options on the right (both set to hide), system tray up top, and the task manager at the bottom.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago
[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I think there is a pretty big difference between an optional plugin and it being built in by default.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

They're both optional. You can turn it off in Notepad.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

There is a difference between opting out of a default feature and having the option to install a plugin.

I can go replace the horn in a car with an air raid siren, but that’s very different than every car coming with an air raid siren you have to turn off.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Notepad went from barely maintained and barely useable (it couldn't even handle undo/redo in a reasonable way) to surprisingly decent at basic text editing to now bloated with useless shit. They were so close.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

And how much slower is it to launch and use?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

"bearly maintained with AI" now g

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

For those who don’t know: Mousepad (at least, I think this was the reference)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I got the most badass mousepad I've ever seen in Germany. It was a cartoon of someone trying to sell an abacus to the king with a mouse (an actual one) with its tail nailed to it, and his advisor suggesting he wait, as in (some number of months -- I got it in 1995, so details are a bit hazy) it will cost half the price.

I only remember some of this verbatim, but it was absolute gold because of double meanings.

Ihr solltet noch warten ... inclusive Maus ... auf Festplatte

The mouse is easy enough to jump language comprehension (though "inclusive" is pronounced differently), but Festplatte means both a wooden board, as the base of the abacus was, and hard drive.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This one, I guess.

"The latest generation of 'calculators' (German synonym: computer), 16 colors, on a 'solid plate' (syn: hard drive) including mouse."

"You should wait - it's half the price in six months"

by Uli Stein

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's the one! Awesome! Thanks for the link.

I didn't realise he was from Niedersachsen ... that would explain how I ran into it in Hameln.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I don't use it, but I assume the writes for you was to imitate VS Codes GitHub copilot. While it will suggest code in stuff like scripts, you can absolutely ignore it

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