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[-] [email protected] 197 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

When we were watching it on BBC there was clearly something going on, but everything you heard was cheers. There were patches when it was very quiet and it just sounded different. When it ended Graham Norton said “I don’t know what you’re hearing at home but the reaction in the hall is very mixed”.

[-] [email protected] 103 points 2 weeks ago

Good on him for making that comment

[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

Random claps in the Israeli song was hella out of place.

Also, the crowd chanting "Austria" was not edited on the official stream.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

The BBC loves editing footage.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, it's the EBU/Switzerland's broadcast isn't it? Not that the BBC doesn't do its fair share of nonsense.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I dunno, and I don’t think it would stop the BBC fucking with it, but I don’t know what I’m on about at the best of times.

[-] [email protected] 126 points 2 weeks ago

They had to mute the booing but they "win" televote. Mossad have been busy tonight.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't need any organisation; there are plenty of right wing apologists and zealots who are motivated enough to vote. People can't really vote "against" Israel so it'd be very easy to distort the vote if even a minority of people are focused enough to vote for one country. Israel's song wasn't terrible but it was pretty bland ballad and the televote result was patently ludicrous. But also none of the other songs were that great this year which would make it even easier for a concerted effort to win the televote.

Extreme example in the other direction is when Ukraine won in 2022. The song wasn't particularly good but Europe coalesced around voting for Ukraine. Even the Jury voting that year was distorted in Ukraine's favour. It didn't need any organisation.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yup. Generally big fans of eurovision spread out their votes between their a couple of their favorite songs. Normal viewers give maybe one vote only. Zealots put the max 20 votes on israel from the moment the voting is opened and don't even look at the show.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

They were the head sponsor with 'morrocan' oil, which is a Israeli company.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Also, "voting" in Eurovision is nothing more than maxing out a credit card. A vote doesn't represent a person but the amount of money they are willing to spend on their "non political" song festival.

Israel was also buying advertisements for people to vote for Israel despite it being illegal to do so.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, that just makes the most recent Doctor Who episode all the more poignant

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

As a non-whovian , could you summarize it?

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

Some song contest (Eurovision) had gotten so big it was a galactic event. The sponsoring company had invaded one of the planets, stolen their resources (a honey flavored flower) to make a what I think was a cereal, then set fire to the planet to destroy the farms so no one else could get access to the resource.

The singing competition then banned residents of the planet from entering the competition so they didn't have a galactic stage to speak about the sponsors shitty actions.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

So it has nothing to do with an occupying invader burning down centuries-old olive trees in between bombing breaks. /s

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Username checks out. Guy knows his space produce.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like Doctor Who had some very direct inspiration.

[-] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago

Last year, you could not hear boos when Israel entered, but you heard some between the time the Greek flag (which is the same colours) was seen and Greece was announced, which seemed telling.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

eurovision needs to go away. its just naked nationalism, and supporting war crimes should be a stake in its heart. Israel is not even close to being in Europe.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

This is last year. There are claims that they did it again this year.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

Not claims, they confirmed it themselves.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Banning Joost Klein was when I dropped eurovision already, what a ****show. They ban an artist for nothing, but they don't ban Israel... Okay... ???

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