I wonder if all the bot activity on reddit makes it look so busy that people are confused when they come somewhere with far fewer bots around?
I notice significantly more positive interaction with (at least what I believe to be) real humans here than I did on reddit in my last couple of years there.
People always talk about wanting to grow Lemmy, but honestly I like it a lot more the way it is. You can comment on a post that's been on All for 6 hours and still get plenty of thoughtful responses. On reddit, there was so much noise - especially on major threads - that commenting was like pissing into the wind.
i can see the same thing, things that have been published for hours see steady activity, even some which are lively for a good few days, it feels less like flitting between a bunch of new things which is useful
The solution on that on Reddit has been, retreat into more niche communities, remove default subs from your feed. Right now the way to make Lemmy usable is to browse All, because otherwise there isn't enough content, but I bet as it grows it will go the same way.
For Lemmy that's what I used to do yeah, bc there was no better option.
PieFed offers numerous additional options though, most especially categories of communities, including user customizable and shareable Feeds. You can even have your cake and eat it too - like subscribe to no political communities to avoid them showing up in your Subscribed, but then it's a click away in the News and Politics Topic area. Or, the keywords filter options (for e.g. "Trump", "Musk", or whatever you want) include All, None, and Some, allowing you to refine your Subscribed feed to meet your interest level in a particular subject.
And then for very low-volume communities, you can even set up Notification triggers upon every new post (I also use this for a community I mod using a Lemmy alt) - e.g. poetry tends to not be highly upvoted so super difficult to catch organically on either All or Subscribed (you might have more luck there sorting by New, but this requires blocking a TON of communities like for sports and individual locations and such).
PieFed really is an entirely different experience than Lemmy! Maybe as it becomes successful, the Lemmy devs may start to port the features over? But it's doubtful, as existing requests have languished for like 5 years already - PieFed's being written in Python rather than Rust really makes a difference in such matters.
I also choose this guy's comment!
Now make people restating it 800 times half the thread. Switched a few weeks ago, and honestly the fact I have yet to see the words heckin or wholesome, nor the annoying as fuck story style of banal metaphor they think is relatable and super clever, sounding like a chimichanga doused in tabasco making its emergency 3AM exit be known, has all sold me. Reddit seems to be a bunch of people who think they're super unique and progressive as they salivate over Marvel movies and rehash the same 9 political talking points, 50 posts, and 4 philosophy quotes they don't understand ad infinitum. It is reddit without redditors, and doesn't feel like it is curated by the DNC's PR department. What's not to love?
I think lemmy'd be ideal if it was double our triple its current size. Maybe just large enough to convince r/askhistorians to jump ship.
I would say "^This" in jest but didn't want to traumatize you, so wrapped it in this sentence:-). But yeah, I decided to leave Reddit for good around the time of the protests. Fortunately I had Kbin (a now-defunct alternative to Lemmy, the project carried forward by Mbin and somewhat in spirit by PieFed which I am on now) to jump to, but seriously I was going to leave all that trash regardless. I did not enjoy what it was doing to me - like how argumentative and defensive I was having to become upon saying ANYTHING at all, and more often choosing not to respond in places like r/pop(ular) bc of the feedback that would inevitably come.
The Threadiverse (threaded-style defederated forum software, currently Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed) isn't perfect, but is so much better! It requires a ton more effort to set up than Reddit did (well, Lemmy does - check out PieFed's setup wizard and you'll never look back!:-P), yet unlike corporate enshittified Reddit is worth it. Breathe the free air here!
Also an interesting article to read about the addictive effects that such platforms engender in their unwitting participants: https://medium.com/@max.p.schlienger/the-cargo-cult-of-the-ennui-engine-890c541cebcb .
I find the current Lemmy perfect for general news and discussions, but I sure do miss some of the more niche hobby communities reddit had to offer.
I've noticed the same. I've also noticed it become slightly more combative and strawman-y with the influx of new folx, but maybe getting better again lately? Anyway, this is just going by anecdotal/vibes, and it's definitely better than mainstream/commercial socials.
I've also noticed it become slightly more combative and strawman-y with the influx of new folx, but maybe getting better again lately?
I'd like to think it's because the mods here are a lot less likely to aid and abet that shit. I don't know if it is, but that's what I'd like to think.
Yeah mods and admins around here put in some real good work protecting their users.
have you looked at comments on an instagram post? you'd absolutely never be allowed to to say half what gets said there here
What I like about fedi is that while we usually give people the benefit of the doubt, we don't tolerate dog whistles, sealioning, or other ""subtle"" methods of spreading bigotry and intolerance.
Whereas the big commercial platforms we on't do a thing unless it's blatant harassment, or matches one of the 12 slurs on their no-no list.
and if your admin allows that shit you can go find a new admin. no one's the only game in town out here
Probably slightly controversial but I'm actually missing getting into arguments with strangers. I feel like I need some conflict in my life.
I honestly think that there is more direct activity here. I asked the same question on reddit in 3 different places, but had more replies here than there.
Less bots. Reddit is all bots now
Dead Reddit theory Explains the popular subs' comments
Take my updoot, buckaroo! ๐ซต๐ค ๐
It depends if you want to have a conversation with bots or other people
Yeah, what the hell?
I was a prolific reddit commenter for over a decade and myailbox would be empty each day
I have 600+ comments waiting for me now iny Lemmy inbox. Something is different
601 now >:)
Because if you didn't post to small subs or be one of the first 20 or so comments on a big sub post, you'd get buried.
You were shadow banned most likely
I wish I could check a box "No notifications" when posting
Piefed has an option to disable them
Mbin does as well.
I need to use Piefed more.
Not only there, but the little bell icon next to... well... everything. i.e. not only at the time of posting, but at any time you can click, unclick, click again, etc.
And you can do it for other people's content as well as your own.
You can also do it for other people too, or for communities (both of those work best for low-volume entities, obviously:-P). Like poetry tends to get swamped out in Hot, and is still fairly rare in New, so the notifications is one way to make sure to receive all of them. Or posts for a community that you moderate, even if using an account on a different instance.
PieFed is fantastic! ๐
The people who say there's no activity tend to be lurkers and they mean post activity not comments.
If you're on a big community that's usually not a problem but for the small ones it is. If you have a hobby, then chances are its biggest lemmy community still doesn't see enough new activity to feel alive.
Funny I come here every day, and every day there are thousands of fresh posts.
There is a noticeable lack of niche content though, so Redditors saying that aren't willing to see how the style of interactions on the Threadiverse is different.
I didn't like the lack of micromobility content, so I made [email protected] and we have close to 3,000 subs now.
Be the change you want to see is my advice to them.
Yeah but that's still an example of where we're at, though: niche subs rely on single committed users doing 99% of the posting to sustain enough activity.
There's nothing much to do about it at this stage though except try your best to be that user. We probably need to at least double our userbase for that to no longer be the case. Maybe more.
To be fair, we've got two committed users modding and submitting regularly now with a smattering of semi-regular post contributors and a good number of commenters.
Your point stands though, most of the comparable niche communities on reddit are far larger at least in user count.
It's just the 90-9-1 rule in effect. We're only at just under 60k MAUs. It's a great number and makes for decent activity in the larger subs but if 1% of those are regular posters that's... 600. That's not really enough to spread across niche interests, so it figures that most of them lack active subs.
The thing I used to use Reddit for that I miss most is news on specific games I was interested in. If I wanted to actually post news about games, I would need to actively search for the news elsewhere (often times exclusively on Reddit) and regurgitate it here. This defeats the point of the me wanting the community or leaving Reddit in the first place.
Only one way to start it. :)
Apologies to those who have messaged me recently.
I commented on like ~50-60 threads a day on reddit, when I had it.
I would get like 3 notifications, and half would be about votes.
Heh same.
I love how on Piefed you can check or uncheck "Notify about replies".
I feel like Lemmy has reached a critical mass of user base at some point in the last year.
They just want more bots to play with
Crazy high engagement
Those kind of arguments are so weird. There are more people on Lemmy than I could ever speak with in my lifetime.
Exactly how many people do these folks need?
I feel like post wise it's quite slow but even if you make one post to a dead community, you'll get tons of engagement
If you want some replies just post against the hive mind. Lemmy is absolutely big enough for some hive activity. We did it!
Well you do post a lot here, I mostly just comment but I do get a bit on my inbox
I commented on a hexbear thread about defederating with feddit.uk (my instance) over transphobia. It's been a busy day.
Memes about the Fediverse.
Other relevant communities:
