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Oh yeah, we're about to see things get really shitty on Discord.
Already have embedded ads. I'm about done with this shit and willing to have no one to talk to just so I don't give discord the satisfaction of using their Spyware.
"All right, everybody. I know there's been a sexism problem here at Discord, and I'm here to change that. If we really work hard and power through, I truly believe that we can work our way up to the kinds of numbers I was able to achieve back at Activision Blizzard."
I picture him saying this while he hangs a picture up of Bill Cosby in the board room. Yes, that was a thing at Activision/Blizzard. Time to start finding a new platform. Peak enshitification achieved.
So the end of discord is nigh
Discord is never going to be profitable lmao
It can be a loss leader for microsoft, but at the end of the day, discord will always lose money. The operational cost of discord is way too high
This change just means more enshittification like with every ceo change.
Honestly they should just go full on points shops for spending money on xbox, like steam. Give out points to use for customization. That way they could at least make some incentive to use xbox and probably boost sales.
Enshitification applies to EVERYTHING
Linux hasn't enshittified. Neither has the fediverse. Enshittification applies to everything corporate and for-profit.
Originally it was a good descriptor of tech companies starting out as useful and then turning to shit as they leaned into becoming profitable, but if you was to use it as "things get shitty in favor of profits" then I guess it could apply to everything.
I liked the original where it had nuance and was a good shorthand specific to the tech trends.
Words can entshitify? Ahhhh. Everything given enough time will gravitate to its natural state of sucking ass. It's the you didn't die when you were the hero scenario all the way down.
Okay boys and girls, time to start discussing the next migration. Where we goin'?
revolt chat or matrix?
I could get behind a revolt ;)
Host your own TeamSpeak server.
The client is getting occasional beta release, but nothing for the server in years, although stuff is apparently being worked on. It seems they want to make it function more like Discord.
How about matrix?
I'm looking to check out spacebar at the weekend. Seems they had some DMCA issues a few years back, but it looks as though the repo is still active.
No idea whether the discord integration stuff still works, nor the details around the DMCA (I assume it's due to the old name being fosscord) but it's piqued my interest enough to give it a shot.
Failing that, I'll probably look toward revolt or a matrix + element setup as they seem to be the main suggestions for discord alternatives.
Back to self-hosted teamspeak then I guess
user entered your channel
o7 rip Discord, you wont be missed.
RIP discord.
Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform. I want teamspeak and vent back but people nowadays won't even try. So we are forced to keep using it. People have no balls to stand up to corpos just to learn something new. It's infuriating.
Another issue is console integration. I’ve got friends I play with using cross-play (PC-PS5), but the only service we can both use is Discord unless they use multiple devices.
I would love to use Mumble, Matrix or Revolt but it’s the same hurdle.
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/
You can use matrix and still keep in touch with the lazy people. Having a place for people to go when they eventually get fed up will help a ton.
I'm not lazy. i have matrix up and ready to go. the issue is I can't just force 200+ people to just up and abandon a platform where all their stuff is for one community on that platform.
in order for discord to truly die, it needs a HUGE exodus. as right now, my communities are too well integrated.
basically discord needs the same mass exodus that Xitter had to bsky and the elephant one. its the only hope communities have to survive discord dying.
we're not being lazy. we're trying to not have whole online communities get upended when discord finally kicks the bucket. (and it will. soon.)
I want teamspeak and vent
xFire. God I miss xFire. It was better 10 years ago than any service before or since.
Iirc Yahoo frivolous-lawsuit'ed them out of existence. Q_Q
Quit discord last year. Moved my core friend group onto Signal. Video streaming sucks but it addresses most of my other concerns.
Potential alternatives and their issues:
Guilded: owned by Roblox, faces same data/privacy concerns
Discourse: backed by venture capital, same as above
Revolt: slow development, no game streaming, otherwise decent
Matrix: high technical barrier of entry, but promising.
If you're looking to kick discord as well:
For game streaming, try Parsec (with their echo cancellation trick)
For movie/video streaming, try Hyperbeam.
Magic 8-ball says: enshittification is in your future
I've coped long enough, that's the final straw for me.
I'm cancelling my $3/month subscription and putting $1 to my instance, $1 to Wikipedia, and $1 to the Internet Archive. Not a lot but it's better than discord.
~~Doesn't seem like I can use PayPal for Lemmy and I don't wanna go through the process of another payment provider :/~~
Patrion supports PayPal
“Well I’ve been rolling down this well-worn road…”
We need an fos alternative
I agree. Discord actually had a metaphor that I think plays well for federation. Specifically, they called each group a server. And organized the UI in a way that would make federation pretty transparent.
The only consufsing bit would be the concept of a home server login ID. Like, the lack of a central identity provider. But I think that isn't a show stopper.
I kinda wish there were fed ID providers that all fed servers used for login and authentication. I'm not sure exactly how that would work, but being able to have a single identity across mastodon, Lemmy, and any other fed service would really simplify things once you were in the fediverse.
I'm already working on a tool to replace discord for my gaming group. Planning on rolling out a stack of open source IM and Voice/Video chat with ActivityPub for text chat rooms.
Integrating them all into one app is where I'll have trouble, especially since when replacing big corpo tools they need to work perfectly the first time or nobody willvdver want to use it.
Fuck Discord, I hope they go pedal to the medal and destroy the company in record time.
Pedal to the "metal".
Sorry, all I do is win, so the floor of my car is covered in medals...
Was the ActiBlizz guy the one involved in all the sexual harassment?
ActiBlizz guy
sexual harassment
I'm afraid you'll need to narrow this down a bit further.
Anyone looking for an alternative, Revolt is FOSS and pretty much on par with Discord in 2015. They have voice chat and video chat is in development on their roadmap. You can even self-host your own server.
I never got the appeal of discord, but that's fine.
The use of it as a support for a project? So bad.
Hopefully it will collapse and go away.
Matrix is a good replacement for the text and image bit of Discord, but can anyone suggest a good alternative for the voice comms?
When you had the foresight to walk away several years ago and you’ve just been on the sidelines watching it get worse and worse and worse.
i would leave right now if I could take my communities with me. but I sadly have to wait until the app is so unusable that EVERYONE is leaving the app in droves.
Is this the guy that wanted people to pay for reloading ingame? Society really is built to make idiots rich.