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[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

AOC deserves criticism for voting to prevent the rail union strikes. Quite insufficient IMO. Just because someone is worse does not make you fit for public office.

Have higher standards. If we let the republicans set the bar we will be six feet under in no time.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

In a vacuum like this using the best and worst (dumbest?) example from each party.

But both parties as a whole serve the interest of capital. Their methods might be different. Their indirect/direct use of violence might be different. But they serve the same people with the same interest. AOC and Bernie are even saying that now. They've been criticizing the democratic party at all of their events.

Can the liberals stop pretending we can vote our way out of facism and please fucking join us on the left. Fucking please.

Fascism is here. Due process is gone. First amendment is gone. If you're waiting to vote again you're no different than someone in Russia thinking they can vote Putin out of power.

Grab a pitchfork (metaphorically speaking) and get organized.

Join PSL or DSA or anyone in your area resisting ICE. Now. Do it now.

Edit: For every downvote please comment with a different organization resisting ICE and organizing locally. Because if it's just criticism of the groups that ARE resisting it's not helping. Give people an alternative. I would LOVE people just listing groups that are resisting ICE in your area or nationally. Because that's all I want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (24 children)

Join PSL

Ah yes, "Palestinian genocide is bad but Ukrainian genocide is good"

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

I'm so fucking tired of this argument.

It's the same fucking bullshit loop every goddamned time. Somebody will say that the two parties are "the same" clearly meaning "the same in [this] particular sense, and then the pedantic assholes will all come swooping in and start nattering on about how that's completely wrong because they're not absolutely 100% identical.

Here's a fucking news flash for all you binaristic pinheads - there are more than two possibilities. We aren't just limited to "they're 100% the same" and "they're not the same at all." It's not only possible but certain fact that they ARE the same in many, many ways, and the fact that they're not the same in ALL ways doesn't change that.

Anyone who can't envision more than two diametrically opposed possibilities is a fucking moron, and I'm sick and tired of this argument being driven by fucking morons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

If they are "the same in this particular sense" then use that language instead. In no other context do people use the phrase "these are the same" meaning "these have something in common." I wouldn't defend the phrase "Galas and Fijis are the same" because of their similarities any more or less than if I were to compare apples and oranges. I'd say they're both apples or they're both fruit or any number of specific descriptors that they actually share.

It seems to me that if people are using this language as you suggest then they should communicate more clearly, or, more likely, this isn't what they mean.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Example:

"Republicans are corrupt weasels."

"Democrats are the same."

I see only three options there. Either:

  1. You understand and admit that they mean "the same" in the sense of "also corrupt weasels."
  2. You're a liar
  3. You're a moron.
[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Agreed.

The notion of "both sides are the same" is a leftist critique that points out how both parties were long ago bought out and captured by special interests. The people hammering on this idea are especially critical at how, during the 2024 election, when the Democratic establishment was faced with a choice between bowing down to Israel and mitigating full-blown fascism, they chose to bow down to to Israel, commit genocide, and embarrassingly hand yet another win to Trump. All for them sweet AIPAC dollars.

Sure, AOC, the democrat's shining star of progressivism, has different policy positions than MTG, of the right's most outward and frothing fascists, but talk about a low bar... It's akin to saying "how can you say both parties are the exact same when one has a donkey mascot and one has an elephant? A donkey is not the same as an elephant - check and mate, tankie"

[–] [email protected] -2 points 13 hours ago

Weaselly bullshit.

"Both sides are the same" isn't some fucking Leftist code that actually means some other thing. You meant what you goddamn said.

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