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Trump vs China (lemmy.ml)
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[-] [email protected] 369 points 1 month ago

I think Xi might have figured out Trump’s secret. He has no fucking clue what he’s doing. He scares people into reacting by being reckless, then claims a win for getting a reaction.

Ignoring trolls takes their power away.

[-] [email protected] 190 points 1 month ago

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

("Quand l'ennemi fait un faux mouvement, il faut se garder de l'interrompre" --Napoleon)

[-] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago

https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-weak-strongman

Basically, this strategy Trump and Putin and their ilk do never works outside of their little bubble. Their whole game is to tear everyone else in their sphere of influence down to their level, so that they can compete effectively and dominate, but there are always significant threats outside of the sphere. Against which we are now more or less powerless.

[-] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago

They're not really ignoring him though. They've discontinued exports of rare earth and are dumping debt. It's a calculated strategic response to capitalise on an epic mistake.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

This only works if you're China. Most other countries would just be ignored

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

Not really, he backed down on tariffs last week thanks to Canada and Japan. The truth is, Trump has put the US into a very, very precarious position. They have a lot of debt to refinance soon, and if the rest of the world wanted to, they could dramatically increase the interest rates paid on that by coordinating a sell-off of US debt.

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[-] [email protected] 224 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's business school from a guy who ran casinos into the ground. Nice work America.

[-] [email protected] 131 points 1 month ago

It's true. "Casinos," plural. CASINOS PLURAL, EVERYBODY.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago

y'all are spelling 'russian money laundering operations' wrong.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

Even worse. How does one bankrupt a Russian money laundering operation? You'd think they would do their best to keep that shit running.

[-] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago

I think they intentionally go out of business before the Feds have a chance to investigate it.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

They were actually fined for undeclared foreign transactions, but it was during their bankruptcy so it got mostly ignored by history

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

I thought the consensus was that was money laundering?

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

I found this https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-taj-mahal/index.html

So it’s at least alleged and they paid to settle. But wouldn’t you want to keep your laundry working? Idk

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[-] [email protected] 221 points 1 month ago

Everyone is somehow missing China cutting off rare earth metals the US relies on for technology and defense

[-] [email protected] 161 points 1 month ago

It wasn't just stopping exports to the US, they've stopped exporting rare earth elements worldwide starting yesterday. Plus, they are starting to unload billion of debt we owe them. It's almost as if Trump is intentionally trying to destroy our country in the morning, and then later in the day he wants to be the bully negotiator without understanding his precarious position.

[-] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago

You remember r/shitamericanssay? Last time he won, there were a lot of people talking about stuff Europe has but America doesn't, and, if you browse the posts there, a lot of Americans responding how Europe is backwards, in the stone age, and what they do have is paid for by America, out of benevolence.

Well, those folks are in charge now.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

There wouldn't be much point merely stopping export to the US because some other country could just on-sell to the US.

He really doesn't understand his precarious position and the harm he has done and is doing.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

This is how the CoD storyline started.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

It's called not being an utter moron.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

I love how everyone just sort of glazes over how astoundingly unpopular Steam was when it was first introduced.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

I was one of them. They proved my fears unfounded (so far). They've also managed to convert me to a fanboy at some point. I realised I was playing a co-op game brought off steam, on my steam deck, via a steam link to the TV, and the wife using a steam controller.

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[-] [email protected] 106 points 1 month ago

The best next step:

China does nothing (keeps their tariffs)

[-] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago

That's very possible. Trump gave them excuse to do this. They already set up a deal with Korea and Japan (and each two hate each other), and if they would set up a trade deal with EU then the US will be the only loser.

Trump really hurt US with the tariffs on everyone (except Russia, North Korea and Belarus)

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

best deal in the history of deals

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[-] [email protected] 99 points 1 month ago

What a fucked up world where we are cheering on China. Fucking trump.

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago

Then everyone dumps on him, and he says the roll back was fake news and it's still happening, but nobody even in the administration knows what's going on.

[-] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago

but nobody even in the administration knows what's going on.

"Least of all the horse."

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Bankruptcy never tasted so good?

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[-] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago

Big flex from China. I'm waiting for a country to call trump's bluff by putting an export tax on their own goods sent to the USA.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Canada should have done this on everything. If the Americans can afford the tariff then there is room for us to charge more. Not really but yeah should do it.

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

Didn't this happen last time? Less dramatically, but still.

He puts in a bunch of tariffs. China reciprocates. The market is thrown into chaos. He shouts and screams. China ignores him. He backtracks. China ends the tariffs but doesn't do anything to try and appease him. He claims it's a victory. His fluffers say the tariffs were just to bring China to the table, which justifies the hit to the market, despite the fact China didn't come to the table and President Pigshit didn't articulate what China could actually give him to end the tariffs.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Yes, but this time he also decided to tariff the whole world.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

That is The Art of the Deal. But the Chinese version.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

That's just Sun Tzu Art of War

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

Wish somebody told him he didn't have the cards.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago

The cards are made in China

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

... Trump keeps begging for China deal while bragging about phone calls kissing his ass. No foreign meetings. No envoy sent to China.
China limits US studio film releases
Bessent says Tariffs are no joke. China must make a deal.
Chinese airlines refuse Boeing+parts deliveries (reported as "China orders", but leopards were not going to make US aerospace affordable at 125% tariffs.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

THE ART OF THE DEAL

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Despite that, Fox News will continue stacking his invisible laurels. Doesn't matter if his policy does anything. All that matters is that his followers are convinced that the policies are doing something.

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