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Liberalism in my CPUSA? Who could've seen this coming? (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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John Bachtell, former national committee chairperson of CPUSA, continues the party's decades long tradition of making shit up to discredit the left's greatest accomplishments. Liberals hate that Stalin and the greater communist movement destroyed the independence of Ukraine's ruling class and brought an end to the centuries of antisemitic violence they used to preserve their power.

SMDH my dickhead.

Check this shit out @[email protected]

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago

Stalin was a very famous russian chauvinist. you can tell it simply by his name : Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili, the most RUZZIAN of names

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

I remember he did get into some spat with Lenin once where Lenin accused him of being a "Great Russia Chauvinist" but it could've been exaggerated and I'm not going to pretend to know about ethnic relations in late imperial Russia/early USSR.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago

Damn this is embarrassing. What a joke org

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

Extremely sus thing for a "communist" to say.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago

This is such an ahistorical take. Not even something that requires a deep dive, a cursory glance of the Wikipedia page for Ukraine shows it’s nonsense to describe the relationship between the two countries as “colonial.”

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Everything that happened between 1917 and 1990, in Russia, was Colonialist. Then they got a brief reprieve during the period in which Gorbachev and Yeltsin brought the liberating free market energy of Fukuyama's End of History capitalism into the heart of the Soviet Union and everything was cool until, idk, 2010 maybe? But once Putin put on the One Ring and joined House Slytherin, he fell to the Dark Side of the Force and was corrupted by the Infiniti Stones. That's when the evil Russian colonialism started again. And so now we're in a Glorious Liberal Crusade to free all the Lost Peoples of Eastern Europe from the tyranny of the Russian Oligarchs.

If you're a Real Leftist who has accepted the Spirit of Woke into your heart, you'll hear the call of the Horn of Gondor and Avengers Assemble online to tell all those Russian Bots to Get Off My Plane. Because we're not anything like the Old America of that Evil Tyrant Trump. We're New America and we're Fighting The Good Fight. Ignore Wikipedia. That's propaganda. Don't trust it. Trust me, the guy who is on the internet right now. Ukraine is Good and Russia is Evil. If you don't pick the right side, we'll know that you're an Ork and its okay for us to do literally anything to you as a result.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Everything before 1917? That was princess Anastasia having really cute ballroom dancing parties.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

I know @[email protected] is a member here. Any thoughts on this?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

@[email protected] I'm interested to hear your thoughts too. Why is John doing this?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Not Pluto, but there is a vast disconnect between many local CPUSA and the national group. There are often proper commies locally and incoherent popular front liberals nationally. There is no real program or coherent line, so there are also nazbols and shit in some local groups.

This can be maintained precisely because nobody wants to be associated with national's liberalism. If folks joined en masse and stomached it for a few years, the party could be made communist again. Some folks, like JT from Second Thought, are trying to do that reform (with limited success unfortunately).

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Is it Bachtell?

Hold on.

I'm seeing just the tagged comments. Wait.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I heard Bachtell caused trouble against about Russia even though he was almost expelled for the last article. Hold on.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

With chairperson like this, who needs feds?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

He's not a co-chair.

[+] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

standing by the USSR during WW2 was good. not too much else tbh

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

Aren't they all cops at this point?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

I assumed that the FBI stopped bothering. They basically finished the job.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

The Old Party had a illustrious history from its Founding to the passing of Gus Hall. At it was a party of the people, many stories of its accomplishments weren't bombastic nor grand, like how the bourgeoise media presents the political parties, but are the stories of the accomplishments of the working class. These stories range from helping black families chased out of their homes by segregationist red-liners find both temporary and later permanent housing, to helping to build unions that still stand today. If America was at war, you could count on the old party to protest against it as the vanguard for peace in ending U.S hostilities.

It had its flaws - as any communist party does - but from Ruthenberg to Hall the party was on the right side of history

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

We did not; we fought against segregation and fought for the Scottsboro boys most famously.

We were one of the first ones to be against segregation.

W.E.B. DuBois was a member of the CPUSA.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

They were okay in the 1930s-40s. They weren't segregated but in the 20s they were the image of crackkker incompetence trying to organize with black people (most often attempting to organize on behalf of black people, failing to build power by embedding with and growing from the workers). They did learn lessons and course-correct, though.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

More like LPUSA amirite?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

@[email protected]

Also, yeah, John Bachtell was ousted from leadership due to stuff like this.

We kinda hate him in the CPUSA, though I know a friend that likes him personally and knows him.

But yeah, I'm glad that Joe Sims replaced 'em.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Interesting. I've met him before. He is a nice guy. I haven't learned anything about Joe Sims yet. If you've got the time, could you post a link to any writing by him, or a video that you think is good?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I enjoyed the writing he did where he lays out his opinions on the dictatorship of the proletariat, Marxism-Leninism, and his opinion on Soviet legality.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

FYI I don't think pings work in posts. Only comments.

Also John Bachtell is president of Long View Publishing Co., the publisher of People's World.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not exactly great advertisement for CPUSA. This clown was in national leadership? Is he still in the org?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Yes, he was almost expelled.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Repeating Nazi propaganda like this doesn't get you expelled? Wtf?

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

almost

cringe

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

The General Secretary till 2014 also left abruptly and became a DNC staffer.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

John, wtf?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

What happened.

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