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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

John Bachtell, former national committee chairperson of CPUSA, continues the party's decades long tradition of making shit up to discredit the left's greatest accomplishments. Liberals hate that Stalin and the greater communist movement destroyed the independence of Ukraine's ruling class and brought an end to the centuries of antisemitic violence they used to preserve their power.

SMDH my dickhead.

Check this shit out @[email protected]

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

I know @[email protected] is a member here. Any thoughts on this?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

@[email protected] I'm interested to hear your thoughts too. Why is John doing this?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Not Pluto, but there is a vast disconnect between many local CPUSA and the national group. There are often proper commies locally and incoherent popular front liberals nationally. There is no real program or coherent line, so there are also nazbols and shit in some local groups.

This can be maintained precisely because nobody wants to be associated with national's liberalism. If folks joined en masse and stomached it for a few years, the party could be made communist again. Some folks, like JT from Second Thought, are trying to do that reform (with limited success unfortunately).

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

"Not Pluto, but there is a vast disconnect between many local CPUSA and the national group."

There is not.

And I myself am but an extension of the democratic command of the National Committee.

"so there are also nazbols and shit in some local groups."

We keep kicking out PatSocs; we are the main victims of the PatSocs, as they come in to infiltrate and try and take us over and attack trans comrades and neurodivergent comrades.

"If folks joined en masse and stomached it for a few years,"

All I can say is that I do not condone entryism, especially as the PatSocs are doing just that right now.

"the party could be made communist again"

It already is Marxist-Leninist per our Party Program and Constitution as well as National Committee.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

As someone that knows several CPUSA members across 5 states I can absolutely tell you that the disconnect is real and that national is liberal as shit, not M-L. Their popular front stance is not reluctant, you can tell by leadership's overall behaviors.

Also your argument about entryism really just undercuts telling anyone to ever join, as the reform movement is the only thing I could ever use to get a communist to join it rather than another org. I'll resume being reticent to suggest this.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

As someone that knows more than several CPUSA members, I can tell you that that is not the case.

And the United Front is becoming more popular as time has gone on.

No, I am not reticent on the last point, to be clear: if you don't agree with the CPUSA's Party Program and Constitution as well as general politics then please join another organization or start your own, please.

It's bad enough that PatSocs are trying to take us over and we have to continually fight them off and harassing people like myself and other comrades.

Entryism is absolutely wrong.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Just providing informed feedback, which I'll also refrain from going forward. Most folks just ignore and joke about the party. I thought this might be more comradely, but it's clearly unwanted.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

No, I do not condone entryism, I'm sorry.

We've had many trans comrades harassed by PatSocs and entryism opens up people like that to our org, which I don't want any further. Again, I'm sorry, but while I have nothing against you, I cannot condone that, and entryism, to me, even without the PatSoc factor, is morally wrong.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

As an outsider, just to be clear, your behavior here has firmly reinforced my resolve that I will absolutely never consider joining your party. You should probably refrain from speaking publicly on behalf of your party if you're interested in getting new members.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I am not here to recruit and I'm sorry you feel that way.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

You will find that comrade to be extremely resistant to criticism of their party, regardless of your good intentions.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Is it Bachtell?

Hold on.

I'm seeing just the tagged comments. Wait.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I heard Bachtell caused trouble against about Russia even though he was almost expelled for the last article. Hold on.

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