Ended up in twitter discourse, which is how I know my time there is ending.
I don't know if sukimom is arguing that patriarchy doesn't exist at all, and I don't think she's arguing it either, but she brings up very good points that specifically Black men are targeted by the state differently than other men and therefore do not have the same systematic patriarchal power. Where people are getting lost is the systematic ties to patriarchy, as opposed to individual. But these past few days on Twitter disgust me with these racist attacks on Black men as more violent, more sexist, evil, and therefore deserving of systematic oppression by the state. They even tried to bring in Indian men and Palestinian men as a gotcha that it's not all Black men but men.
I hate MRA but am starting to recognize where some of their concerns are valid, specifically for Black boys and men. Misogyny and patriarchy affect both genders and race differently. Misogyny says women are meek but misogyny for Black women say we're loud and powerful. Misogyny for men say they aren't caretakers and don't deserve diaper changing rooms in their bathroom, misogyny for Black men says anything they do wrong to a white woman deserves corporeal punishment.
Anyway, I don't remember where I was going with this. Just some thought as my worldview is developing. Men of color are targeted by the state too even if they're men, who historically have systematic power.