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[-] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago

Is the right to roam really worth the loss of the fundamental freedom to shoot someone who steps on your lawn?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Absolutely not!

*continues polishing automatic, sawed-off, pistol grip shotgun

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

My wrist hurt reading that

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I've actually shot one and while it was weird and uncomfortable, the recoil wasn't that bad. Owning one is kinda stupid though.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

The reason people don't like people wandering onto their land is the usa....is getting sued. The amount of lawyers here which will take a case for anyone or any reason is insane. Even if the person knows they won't win, you who are getting sued, is going to lose money and time because you're going to need to pay a lawyer to make sure you don't lose your clothes by the sueing party.

It sucks, thankfully we have a ton of parks...for now.

[-] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Some countries have it, not all or even most. Sweden is not representative of the entirety of Europe.

In Greece you arent even allowed to camp outside of very limited designated camp sites(though laws in Greece are more like suggestions, so many people still go camping in forests).

[-] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

In Greece you arent even allowed to camp outside of very limited designated camp sites

Same in Germany

though laws in Greece are more like suggestions

Not same in Germany 😅

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Where would you even camp in Germany be fr

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I live in Bavaria so probably on a mountain

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

There's plenty of forests and countryside where you could pitch a tent just fine. At worst, you'd have to talk to a farmer to ask if you can pitch your tent on their land.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Tbf, from first hand experience i can say people are fucking animals when it goes to camping. We used to have places where it was tolerated but people shat and pissed everywhere. Left their garbage behind, food waste attracted animals etc.

People are unbelievable stupid, so they kinda had to ban it and force that ban.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

i can say people are fucking animals when it goes to camping

It took me reading the rest of your comment, and a lot of thought, before I realized you were using the word "fucking" as some kind of intensifier instead of as the word for "having sex with."

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Same. I was like, wow, that's really bad behavior while camping.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

England didn't even when part of the EU.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I know, this is why I said England rather than UK. Not sure on Wales/NI. Either way, not really a practical option to get there.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

And camper vans are ruining that

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

England has limited right to roam plus public right of way. This effectively means that most land is accessible one way or another.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The vast majority of land isn't open access though. Most woodlands and fields are privately owned and you are not allowed to walk through them.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

We have public right of way, so you can definitely walk through them.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Only if there is a public footpath through it. Otherwise you are trespassing if you don't have the land owners permission

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Why would you walk over an overgrown field?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You would typically walk around the edge of it, but you don't have permission to do that either and we don't have the right to roam here. Also not all land is agricultural fields, pasture and woodland for example.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Great content, as someone who “stealth camps” often I would love that openness. Thank you for sharing.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The right to roam specifically does NOT include camping though.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

The video said in some Nordic countries it does, you just can't be in close proximity to the land owners house.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Ha no, but I like his content. He camps like that just for the camping like that, but I do it because I’m out kayaking or similar and just need to camp somewhere.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

In Spain its also forbidden to own beaches. You can wander any beach with no restriction.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

No one will report you roaming if you open carry. /s

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Except for those who open carry too.

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