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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People that complain about taxes. I’ll agree you don’t pay taxes. But you don’t use any roads to travel. Ever again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I work with one of those people. He's a dipshit. He thinks time is controlled by satellites and clouds are made by cloud machines. Also, the earth is flat and no one has left it because of the dome.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mine him for Sci-fi stories.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Oh. There's also this guy called the World Judge who controls all of the funding for all police stations in the world. He has ultimate authority and seems to be like Judge Dred where he is tge judge, jury, and executioner.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I think you've found the world another Karl Pilkington.

If I were Netflix I'd record everything that falls out of this guy's mouth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Or fire services.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's the only issue with the opt-in taxes idea. But seriously, why should the rest of us be punished because they don't want taxes? Just have the destructive people who say taxation is theft, well...live with no government services, 100% dependent on corporations. Taxes should be opt-in. And that means, those who opt out will have no medical service, no public sewage system, no disability or welfare. We can let them have the roads as gratis, just to keep the peace. They will quickly realize how stupid and evil their system really is, when they are the only ones suffering from it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This sounds nice but in practice will backfire. You need the systems to be universal, so that everyone, including the richest, have a stake in wanting to see them improved. Otherwise you'll get a two tiered system where the public versions are trash because they're underfunded and the private versions (what the rich use) are great but also expensive af.

You want things to work like insurance, where everyone pays in but only the people who need them use it. I want Musk to pay a fuckton into Social Security, not nothing at all because he doesn't use it. Even now there's a problem with Social Security in particular because, even though everyone has to pay it, it puts a cap/limit on how much you pay, so Musk currently ends up paying his share in the first day of the year, and his contribution amounts to the same as a teacher or something.

Universal programs with progressive taxation, that's the way. Low taxes at the bottom, high taxes at the top.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would only work if all the privateers get sent to one specific state like Texas and the two systems are kept completely separate.

Let everyone move to Texas and pay no taxes, but every hospital visit or doctors visit is paid out of pocket or by insurance companies, no one has social security or welfare, every road is a toll road, you pay a private fire fighter company a monthly fee to be on their protective detail, police are private security firms you also need to pay a fee for protection or to investigate any thefts from your property, there's no mayor or other elected representative for their town because where does the money come from to pay them, the army is also a private security company, the list goes on

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Scariest possibility is they use their private army to just conquer us...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (8 children)

So property tax I am ok with, in theory. The people with property in a city should pay for services like fire, schools, police, road maintenance..... What gets me is when the city wants more and more for stupid shit like iPads for all students.... Every 3 years due to forced upgrades or just old style deprecation over 3 years.

The amount my taxes go up each year is more than any raise I get. Then add on insurance which has gone insane. I paid off my house to avoid a 20k female flood insurance bill because a 1 foot piece of concrete touched a high risk flood zone. A technicality because if I took down a screen patio, then I wouldn't have to pay.

It's insane how expensive owning a house has become

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I paid off my house to avoid a 20k female flood insurance bill

Female flood sounds interesting

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did they mean FEMA, and autocorrect "completed" it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Somehow autocorrect made it funnier too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It doesn't make sense that cities need to increase property taxes every year though

Property tax revenue should be increasing every year by default without changing the rate simply because houses and properties increase in value every year typically

If property tax is 5% and the town makes $100,000,000, the next year if property value increases by 5% then their revenue goes up 5% as well to $105,000,000 automatically. Why do they need to also increase the tax to 6%?

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So he bought a house for 6k 50 years go and now has to pay 2k in property taxes each year. If he was renting that wouldn't cover two months.

Does he also complain that the sales tax on candy bar is more than he used to pay for a candy bar when he first bought his house?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I don't understand how inflation works and I'm blaming government for it"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If the property tax scales with inflation and social security is also adjusted for inflation, but your property tax is getting more expensive relative to your social security income, something's not right.

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I understand that housing prices are outpacing general inflation... that's kinda my point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

A big part of why housing prices are outpacing general inflation is constrained supply due to long time homeowners paying artificially low taxes.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

The real problem if that's the scenario is that his social security check is less than $400/month.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

You have to think more like Trump, LOL. The rich don't pay any taxes through the use of loopholes. Why should you. Slum lords should be forced to pay taxes, not working class schmo that needs a roof over their heads. Tax the slum lords.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My dad literally went to the city and argued against them raising the book value of his home, which would cause him to have to pay more in property tax.

He won too.

That loon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You certainly can argue about your property taxes and win concessions if you have a good reason. It's not hard to do. You just need to get off your ass and attend the annual tax assessment meeting.

It's why that annual meeting exists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I had no idea that was a thing.... Mainly because it's never been relevant to me..... At least, until recently.

Thanks for the info.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did he go to city council chambers, or did he just vaguely go into the city itself and start arguing with people?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I was not provided details as to what he did to argue it, or who he spoke to.

.... That being said, I don't think it was the latter example you gave

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This isn't a discussion on property tax, it's more about social security. There is no reason we cannot scale taxes/fines to income. Many countries pull this off...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

bUt tHeN nO oNe wOuLd bE iNcEnTiViSeD tO wOrK oR bEcOmE wEaLtHy

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (11 children)

They dangle the carrot of "home ownership" as if anyone ever owns a home that can be taken away for not paying taxes.

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