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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A former boss told a story once that was super relatable.

It was about change and how it's not always necessary.... He went on about how one business changed their payment policies so that everything was done by some kind of payment card, they wouldn't accept cash/cheque with their new system.

He was basically bitching about having to pay by card for something he usually pays for by cheque.

The super relatable service that "pulled this on him"? It was a dry dock for his boat.

Yep. Super relatable bossman. I can barely pay my bills on what I'm paid, and you're being super relatable talking about how you store your boat in the winter. πŸ–•

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Last year, my CEO said if we finish the project on time, he'll buy a new truck and bring it around the office for everyone to check it out.

This would be his 20th truck he bought.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jesus, that is even worse than a "let them eat cake" moment. This would be like Marie Antoinette eating cake in front of the starving peasants and then saying "be grateful for the opportunity to watch me eat cake!"

What happened to us? When did our spirits become so broken that the rich figuratively spit in our face and we thank them for it?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Some people in charge of the world would fail the Sally-Anne test.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If you want to check out a new truck that you don't own, just go to a dealership not looking like a bum and they might even let you drive it.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The elites don't want you to know this but the boats at the marina are free you can take them home I have 458 boats.

[–] [email protected] 162 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

There are a lot of people in the world. Like a loooooot. Even if the % of non normies is only like 0.01% of the population that would easily explain those boats.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 6 days ago

This is the real answer and the reason online bubbles are so sad.

There's so many different way to live your life and we are atrofied around a couple of equally bad options.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If there was a plague that had a 100% human infection rate and killed 87% of the people infected it would still only set back world populations to around the start of the 1900s

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No one, take them, they're free.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Some people would be so relieved.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

The ideas that normies don't sail isn't true. I'm a normie and not rich and I started a sailing school because it's fun as hell. You don't need ^to ^own a boat to go sailing, you only need to know how.

[–] [email protected] 123 points 6 days ago (17 children)

Homie how tf are you sailing with no boat?

[–] [email protected] 101 points 6 days ago

That’s the power of your imagination!

[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This simple trick, πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You wouldn't download a boat

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago (6 children)

A friend with a boat is what you want. Same with a pool.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago

The best boat there is is one you don't own!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Just had a look at used sailing boats in Norway and there are a fair number for under $10 000. Basically cheaper than a used car or camper. I'd have one if I had somewhere to keep it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

That's the real kicker. a place to moor your boat is often more expensive and even then maintenance costs will be a lot.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cheap to buy maybe, but expensive to moor and maintain. A friend who bought a small second-hand yacht said his new hobby was tearing up Β£20 notes in a cold shower.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

IIRC the rule of thumb for boat costs, is that annual upkeep costs for a boat are roughly the purchase price of the boat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's wildly inaccurate, even as a rule of thumb. Upkeep (excluding storage, which varies widely by location) shouldn't be over 10% of the purchase price, unless the boat was really cheap or the boatyard doing the maintenance is crooked.

Talking US rates here, I have no experience overseas.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I have a friend who grew up on the coast and her family always sailed for fun.

When she got divorced she bought a sailboat and traveled for a bit in it. She then parked it at a marina and lived in it for so many years close to her kids and grandkids. She paid $100K for boat and her marina fees were $300/month. The boat was paid off with the divorce settlement.

The cheapest 1 bedroom apartment to rent nearby was $3500/month for less square footage than her boat. The cheapest small house was around $1,000,000 or around $6000/ month at the time. The homes around the marina were all priced at several million dollars.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago (17 children)

We met someone like that and they were considered homeless by the city, lol. I think they were annoyed at that.

Seattle is full of people that live on boat as an affordable alternative. You can't be squeamish about insects or get seasick easily because of the storms. I couldn't do it myself, but I've known quite a few that have.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago

me writing β€œthe ocean :)” as my permanent address on government documents

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

A city of 250,000 people could have 250 boats (that's enough for a marina or two) and it would be 0.01% of the population (the one percent of the one percent). That seems to not really be that crazy.

And if you consider that a small percentage of the boat population may have 2 or even 3 boats, than it gets even less weird.

I also think that if you live near water, people are generally at least a little more likely to get a boat instead of a nice car or bigger house or other luxury item.

Edit: I was off by an order of magnitude so it would be 0.1% not 0.01, however, I think the broader point is still valid.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

But 0.01% of 250,000 is 25.

(Sorry πŸ™)

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Sailboats aren’t prohibitively expensive for a normie, especially if you buy a used one. If you look at the large empty houses near every harbor though, you’ll see a better sign of the wealth disparity. The rich own multiple houses worth millions each and they seem to be rarely used while many people can’t afford a starter home now.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (14 children)

My dad used to own a sailboat, which was a high point for someone squarely middle class. We're talking a 44 ft sailboat.

These things are holes in the water who the fuck wants a boat

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How do you make a small fortune?

Start with a large fortune and buy a boat.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago

As the saying goes:

The two best days of a boat owner's life are the day they buy the boat, and the day they sell the boat

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago

Meh, a boat is a hole in the water to dump money into, a car is a hole in the road, and a house is a hole in the ground. At least the boat combines the advantages of the other two.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Some people don't even really sail them but live in them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (15 children)

Boats aren't even that expensive everywhere. In America they're priced as luxury objects for the richest of the rich from what I've heard. Sailing as a way of traveling is actually a kinda cheap and rough activity, like camper vans. Not very "rich" stuff at all. My grandparents had a 30 footer and it wasn't exactly luxurious, definitely camper van vibes. They'd sailed it all over around Europe though.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm kinda one of them. Well my dad is. He's typical of the boat owners I've met over the years. Boomer, business owner, white. He bought the first boat with a buddy in their late 20s, cuz that's when he had enough disposable income after they could afford a house, a rental property, two kids, two cars, a dog and a golf course membership. They had a falling out and my dad bought out his buddy. Three or four boats later I look after the boat, and do all the maintenance. My dad's in his 70s, he can't take the boat out on his own anymore. We go fishing 5 or 6 times a year. Moorage is $6000 a year, fuel is $2000, insurance $3000, maintenance at least $2000. Maintenance would be 10x that if I didn't do most of the work myself.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (9 children)

They're not that expensive, at least not up-front. A guy I know bought a sailboat for a few thousand dollars, but the catch was that it was almost 50 years old and needed a lot of repairs. He saved money by doing the repairs himself, but the $400 per month slip fee was still too much for him eventually and he sold the boat.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

I picked up a fifty year old English built sailboat (Westerly Centaur) for all of $500. My local yacht club (more a working man's boat club than the posh social group that the name suggests). Prior owner fell up on hard times in the middle of a refit and stopped paying storage fees. I picked her up from the club after they placed a lien on it. Since the club is full of powerboat owners, none of them were interested in buying a sailboat.

I'm working to finish the refit, doing the majority of the work myself. Helps that the club fees about to about $1100 a year. $400 a month would be excessive if I weren't living on the boat full time... And refitting a boat while living on her sounds like a miserable experience.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (7 children)

boats aren't expensive, especially the older they are. fixing boats properly is expensive, but you also don't really need to do that. My dad had a racing boat when I was a kid, it cost him $400.. I bought a dinghy last year for $200. That's less than the cost of a game console. And it costs literally nothing to go take it out on the water.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My mom grew up in the '40s and '50s and she told me many times about the surplus PT boat her dad had bought at the end of WWII which the family would take out for boating trips. I was like holy shit a PT (Patrol Torpedo) boat! These things had three Packard engines and could make 45 knots. Later on as an adult I discovered that it was actually just a pontoon boat, one of the things the army would use to make temporary bridges over rivers and that could only go about 3 mph. My mom had just thought "PT" stood for "Pon Toon" so that's what she called it. It turns out she had always wondered what the hell John F. Kennedy had been doing in the Pacific fighting the Japanese in a pontoon boat.

Later on, I then learned that my mom's uncle had actually bought a surplus Air/Sea Rescue boat after the war. This boat was basically a PT boat, just with two of the Packard engines instead of three; since it was 15 feet longer than a PT boat it could also do 45 knots. So it turns out my mom did have this childhood experience of rocketing around the ocean at unbelievable speeds. Her uncle ended up selling the boat after the engine room caught fire for the third time (something these engines were notorious for) and we have no idea what happened to it after that. These boats cost about $190K new and he had somehow acquired it for $10K - I expect there was some shady dealing going on there.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The two best days in a boaters life:

The day they buy their boat; and the day they sell their boat.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My family had a boat quite a few years back. Not a massive one, probably cost ten grand or something. People don't need to be absolutely loaded to own a boat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

When I was a kid, my aunt owned a small one. She’d bring it to my house where my dad and my uncle did repairs.

We were by no means a rich family. It was a two bedroom house with my parents and 3 kids.

I imagine the most expensive part of these are probably dock fees?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Same people who own all the empty properties, residential and commercial; Fucking leaches, that's who.

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