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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

No, we use it to vote.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It seems a little inefficient to put all the airports together

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Its really not so bad once you get over the 12 hour drive.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

So, if most people are going vegan, there would be much more space for other stuff, yes?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So nice of the 100 largest land owning families to have the same amount of land as the entire urban or rural housing population of the rest of the country. I assume it's to fatten themselves up for the rest of us just like the cows.

When do we get to eat them again?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Shit I'm hungry now I'll start the smoker

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Why do they keep allocating land to wildfires if they're so destructive? /s

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's the federal wildfire sanctuary established by president William McKinney. While most fire has been domesticated, the remaining feral fire is allowed to burn free in Utah.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I heard that even though the fire was born here, it has illegal flameborn parents so they’re going to put it on a cargo ship with a bunch of pallets and deport it and that’s how we’ll solve the wildfire issue. Saw it on Joe rogan

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Golf is way too big, imo. No other sport even makes the list here.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

Maybe we can combine it with "wildfires".

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Yeah that land could be used for more christmas trees

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Ban golf and replace all courses with public housing

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gotta see one of these with parking.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It would be a subset of "urban commercial", right? Somewhere in the range of half to three-quarters of it?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Man that guy Urban needs so many houses... What does he even do with them all?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's quite interesting that "rural highways" is one of the categories identified, but not any other sort of improved road. The data source has a base granularity where one square is 250,000 acres (~100,000 hectares), and then additional state data is factored in for increased precision. It supposingly being USDA data, they might primarily care only about those highways used to connect farms to the national markets.

That said, I would be keenly interested in the land used for low-volume, residential streets that support suburban and rural sprawl, in comparison to streets in urban areas. Unlike highways which provides fast connectivity, and unlike dense urban-core streets that produce value by hosting local businesses and serving local residents, suburban streets take up space, intentional break connectivity (ie cul de sacs), and ultimately return very little in value to anyone except to the adjacent homeowners, essentially as extensions of their privately-owned driveways.

It may very well be in USDA's interest to collect data on suburban sprawl, as much of the land taken for such developments was perfectly good, arable land.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I love this visualization and for some reason your comment made me also wish we had this data correlated with the water usage for each land use category.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

There'd be a square or two which just say "Nestlé" lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

"Wildfires" is a surprisingly large area. I wonder what the 2025 area for it is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Get rid of livestock

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have certainly heard of Weyerhauser, but had no idea they were that big. They're the only 'individual' owner shown. The land-owning families is odd as I'm sure it overlaps a lot with pasture and private timberland.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

They have rights to nearly all the timberland in washington, which covers about half the state. They're unbelievably huge, it's ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I think the graphic would be better if some of the data were nested by size and relationship. IOW Agricultural land would have grazing, food production, feed production, etc. in decreasing size nested over an area. Might give greater sense of how much land is used for ag. Same for forestry; Forestry, parks, commercial logging, etc.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (8 children)

And people will still say that the meat/dairy industry aren't a plague

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I would love to flip the railroad usage and cow pasture usage.

Also, mfs drinking too much corn syrup.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Remember, not all land is the same. Some is too dry to grow human food. Some too wet. There are also other things that land is either too or not enough.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I bet we could still multiply output by a decent number by replacing meat production with directly edible crops, if there was a need for it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

It us wild that there is not a need. Distribution is (or was) the issue. Very sad humans refuse to feed others.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Where's the amounts used strictly for cars?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Can we put the 100 largest landowning families in Florida, then saw it off from the rest of the country?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Food we eat is sepperate from cow pastures...

Nice!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Tobacco is still at least 2,000x too big.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Defense is a surprisingly large use of land. How is that? Can anyone explain the most land intensive uses of the Armed Forces? Like tank training areas maybe?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mikitary bases are pretty big. Air force, army, national guard, naval air stations, naval bases, there is a lot going on there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Can't forget that military bases are communities where people live, too. Not just barracks and mess halls for individuals, but there are full neighborhoods and shopping centers for families.*

*My knowledge on this is limited, I just remember visiting a family member on base when I was younger.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This is correct

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can't figure out why the 100 largest landowning families aren't using their land for any of the other reasons. Surely some of them are having it farmed for them too?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

OIL. There's a LOT of land that might be considered cow/grazing but won't really grow anything worth it. See West Texas.

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