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The big deal is there’s no shame. They couldn’t sing about any other violent group, from the Ku Klux Klan to Al-Qa’ida, because their acts are rightly seen as grotesque and their cause entirely illegitimate and immoral. But there’s no shame in the IRA. Why?

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 2 years ago

TIL violence is an ideology that links the IRA, KKK, and Alqaida. Really they're all the same thingsame-picture

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago

This is unironically the Liberal mindset distilled. Identity Politics has them linking together groups based around behaviors as much as other features. Violence is just another behavior that can link together disparate groups politically. It's is, you know, the root neurosis causes them to react so hard against, the IRA, Al Qaida, *sniff* revolutionary communism, and so on, as a way to act out their own inversion. It is precisely this moment, you know, *sniff* that is Ideology.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

NOT the British armed forces though! Do not say that the empire was violent at all!

[-] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago

because their acts are rightly seen as grotesque and their cause entirely illegitimate and immoral

They already answered their own question. Because the cause is not entirely illegitimate and immoral.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

Irish tories is-this creations of the imperial core

Is this the same as a fighting against the imperial core

[-] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lmao it's so absurd on the surface, it's just anti-violence in all ways (except when it's done by a state and their enforcers).

Childlike position. People are fine with violence depending on what it is wielded for, and for these people they see the cause as having been just.

Also the songs are banging.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

If you sing God save the king you're basically al Qa'ida, but unironically

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

Self defense is only okay when I do it. When you defend yourself against me though that's wrong

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They wouldn't sing about...the Ku Klux Klan

"...well, they would, but they'd make sure to make it dog-whistley enough for plausible deniability so they can play it on the radio"

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

Sadly I am not surprised.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

If hurting people is bad, and makes you a bad person

Then why are they so pro england-cool ?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Because the people who support the ways that the British Empire hurt people don't think of those hurt people as people.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

why do the kids support a struggle for national self determination but not vigilante white supremacy or reactionary religious fundamentalism?? difficult to say frankly. i blame the parents.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

They couldn’t sing about any other violent group, from the Ku Klux Klan to Al-Qa’ida, because their acts are rightly seen as grotesque and their cause entirely illegitimate and immoral.

I'm not British (small mercies, I guess?) but I'm assuming that children still get taught the national anthem over there so this argument doesn't hold water.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Carey lives in County Meath and is married with three children.[15] Her father William Carey was a Fine Gael councillor for 47 years on Meath County Council.[16][17]

Lmao of fucking course she's the fail child of some blue shirt dickhead.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

union-man “I didn’t come around to supporting what is now Sinn Féin until the late ‘90s, until the peace process…. They’re not left enough for me, but they are of the left, at least,”

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

if someone were genuinely this ignorant it would be one thing. but it's not, so we should just shoot this person.

"but you always say we should shoot people!"

yes, and i'll stop when it's not the most appropriate solution to a given problem

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago
[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

lmao shitting on irish folk music with their insane english reactionary takes

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

plot twist this is an al-qu'ida thinkpiece

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