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This has not been a good year for aviation and we're barely two months in
this post was submitted on 17 Feb 2025
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Don't worry! I'm sure president Musk cutting staff at the understaffed FAA will reduce accidents!
I hate to link them, but video of the outside of the plane - https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1irthzm/all_survived_video_from_passenger_on_board/
Everyone walked away. How the hell do you land a plane upside down?
How the hell do you land a plane upside down?
Professional Microsoft Simulator skillz!
They clearly just used slew mode
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This is completely unverified, but I heard it happened while the plane was taxiing. Just a freakishly strong crosswind picking up a light plane.
We had some strong winds today
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Not quite walked away. Nobody died on the scene, but two adults and a child were critically injured. Here's hoping they recover from their injuries.
As to the cause, I can only speculate until the flight data is available, but I suspect it had something to do with the wind conditions. They were recording gust speeds up to 37 mph which is pretty high and at the very least could cause an uncomfortable landing. If they got a higher gust or the wind direction suddenly shifted, it could cause the plane to experience uneven lift. One wing goes high and the other dips. If this happens just as the plane is touching down it's nearly impossible for the pilot to correct.
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Not everyone walked away. Some may have suffered life-altering injuries.
Peel Regional Paramedic Services confirmed to CBS News that 15 patients had been transported to the hospital. Out of those injuries, one child and two adults are critically injured. The rest of the injuries are minor to moderate, officials said.
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Must have been one hell of a wind shear to cause the plane to flip before touch down.
Actually, when a plane feels safe and trusts its pilots it will show you its belly in a display of vulnerability to communicate its feelings.
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Did it? I think if it flips before landing, it's not very likely to walk away from that.
In the thread on the site that shall not be named, people were speculating that it touched down, skidded off the runway due to the high winds, one wing caught the ground, sheared off, then it rolled over.
Seems plausible to me, but I know next to nothing about aviation, so take my opinion with a large pinch of salt.
Seems more likely scenarios for the wingstrike after touchdown. From the video the plane is on asphalt which is crazy to me. Given how straight the fuselage is, I’m still boggled how it ended upside down with as little damage shown on the fuselage.
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wtf is happening to all the planes all of a sudden? crazy year for aviation
Well this one got confused when talking to the air traffic controller. They said eh, and he mistook it as Australia. By the time he heard them say sorry it was tits up.
Edit: well shit... I heard they were all safe and now I am seeing not everyone might be okay, so now I feel like an ass
Sardonic humor is practically a necessity for survival at this point. Really glad that this wasn't a high lethality crash.
Maybe we’re losing the will to maintain the high standards they require.
Or maybe the knowledge?
There’s been a pilot shortage for years.
So the FAA reduced the requirements for being a flight instructor. There were a bunch of shitty flight instructors which led to a lot of private pilot incidents.
I think we’re seeing the results of those shitty instructor’s students becoming commercial pilots at the same time that the seasoned pilots are leaving for retirement or cushy private roles for corporations and the wealthy.
So it’s mainly an experience thing. Most industries run on the experience of a small group that guides new workers until they’re experienced enough to keep things moving. This is what happens when there’s not enough seasoned workers to guide all of the new employees coming in. The same thing is happening in the trades, where a lot of industry knowledge is being poorly passed down due to all of the old guard retiring at the same time as their replacements are being hired. It’s anecdotal, but I’ve heard from friends who manage facilities departments at major hospitals that there’s a lot of barely running equipment because they’ve only got a handful of people, and only 1 or 2 experienced people, trying to maintain entire campuses.
Overworked, inexperienced employees will make mistakes. And unfortunately for them, they no longer have the opportunity to learn from experienced workers before they are thrust into critical roles.
Clusters appear in random data sets
I’m glad everybody was ok, especially since the actual image of the fully-upside-down plane is so cool and I would feel bad enjoying it otherwise.
Three people critically injured ie. Not ok
Update: 19 of 21 people released from hospital; 2 remaining hospitalized passengers did not face life-threatening injuries.
The pilot:
I forgot how much I'm angry at George Lucas
Still better than Disney.
We should have a law dictating that airplanes shall not ever land upside down!
what? and ban all flights to australia?
Darn! We might need a midway switch of airplane orientation.
The plane landed right side up and then flipped over.
We should have a law that planes aren't allowed to flip over.
The fuck is going on with planes lately?
Removal of regulation and QA cause of profit
The FAA says all 80 people on board Flight 4819, operated by Endeavor Air, were evacuated.
Literally my go-to direction for when I need to use "evacuate".
After seeing video from several different angles it looks like there was no landing flare. The plane drove straight into the runway. The CRJ tends to land “flatter” than many aircraft, but the mains and nose touch almost simultaneously even with the compression of the main strut. That’s not right at all. We’ll have to wait and see if there was a shear or something that caused a loss of airspeed where the pilots kept the nose down, or whether it was just a crew fuckup, new pilot in the aircraft, whatever.
Yeah, it looks like there was a slight roll just before touching down that put all the weight on one set of wheels. The wheels just seemed to collapse. Maybe it was the lack of flare or a structural failure on the landing gear? It definitely didn't look like it flared at all.
The failure was because of the lack of arresting the sink rate with a flare. I sincerely doubt it was a structural issue inherent with the aircraft, but the investigation will reveal what happened. The NTSB and the Canadian TSB will sort it out.
Trump's fault
How does a plane get infected with Minneapolis? We shoupd make sure this doesn't spread like bird flu.
Rolled over like a puppy
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