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I hate to link them, but video of the outside of the plane - https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1irthzm/all_survived_video_from_passenger_on_board/
Everyone walked away. How the hell do you land a plane upside down?
Aussie pilot.
This whole thing is giving me serious Front Fell Off vibes.
Professional Microsoft Simulator skillz!
They clearly just used slew mode
Ah yes, random 2 foot ledge in the runway
This is completely unverified, but I heard it happened while the plane was taxiing. Just a freakishly strong crosswind picking up a light plane.
We had some strong winds today
I heard this as well from people who were at the airport at the time.
Yeah that was my source as well. But there's some CCTV footage that appears to show the plane moving upside down much faster than taxiing speed, so seems like it was just a rumour.
Not quite walked away. Nobody died on the scene, but two adults and a child were critically injured. Here's hoping they recover from their injuries.
As to the cause, I can only speculate until the flight data is available, but I suspect it had something to do with the wind conditions. They were recording gust speeds up to 37 mph which is pretty high and at the very least could cause an uncomfortable landing. If they got a higher gust or the wind direction suddenly shifted, it could cause the plane to experience uneven lift. One wing goes high and the other dips. If this happens just as the plane is touching down it's nearly impossible for the pilot to correct.
Winds were gusting to nearly 60 over in VT yesterday. I can’t wait to hear why the wing apparently failed (once it was gone it’s easy for a plane to invert one the runway like that.
Sounds like the hard landing might have broken it, but Bombardier is going to have some explaining to do, since it’s probably supposed to handle that
Not everyone walked away. Some may have suffered life-altering injuries.
I hope they're doing alright. For a plane crash, this is probably as good as we could hope for.
Must have been one hell of a wind shear to cause the plane to flip before touch down.
Actually, when a plane feels safe and trusts its pilots it will show you its belly in a display of vulnerability to communicate its feelings.
I feel terrible for laughing at this. Guess I should submit and go belly up myself in repentance.
Only if you want to show everyone you're a good boy!
Did it? I think if it flips before landing, it's not very likely to walk away from that.
In the thread on the site that shall not be named, people were speculating that it touched down, skidded off the runway due to the high winds, one wing caught the ground, sheared off, then it rolled over.
Seems plausible to me, but I know next to nothing about aviation, so take my opinion with a large pinch of salt.
Seems more likely scenarios for the wingstrike after touchdown. From the video the plane is on asphalt which is crazy to me. Given how straight the fuselage is, I’m still boggled how it ended upside down with as little damage shown on the fuselage.
~~According to CBC 1 person is in hospital in critical condition and another estimated 14 passengers were injured.~~
CTV now says "three of the patients, including a child, sustained critical injuries", total of 18 injured.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/local/peel/article/live-updates-18-injured-after-toronto-pearson-plane-crash-delta-airlines-says/
There was also some fairly heavy wind/gusts at the time, 51-65 km/h (32-40 mph).
https://weather.gc.ca/past_conditions/index_e.html?station=yyz
If the plane's wing caught a 65 km/h gust at just the right angle, it may have been enough to lift and flip the plane. Just a guess tho.
Thou shalt not speculate, but I'm going to do it anyway. Given the lack of a wing and icy conditions, I would guess a skid off the runway caused a roll once the wheels caught the snow, detaching a wing and leaving the plane on its roof. Thankfully the lower speed would mean simply rolling over rather than the more...destructive alternative.
That's fair. Hard to know until the investigation's over. YYZ is shut down for few days.
One Mile at a Time is reporting both wings were lost and a VASAviation link from the control tower warns of a side bump on the glide path from another aircraft landing first.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/delta-plane-crash-lands-flips-upside-down-loses-both-wings/
If they're using the AIS appropriately, somehow three people skipped serious and severe injuries and went straight to a 30%+ chance of dying. I cannot imagine a scenario of how this is possible in a confined tube where everything is secured away and the other 96% of people walk on out of there with a minor fractures at best.
All I've thought is a large passenger somehow came unfastened and crushed people, causing skeletal damage, organ ruptures, collapsed lungs, etc. and now the stastical odds is at least one of those critical patients ain't gonna make it.
An iPad or laptop to the skull will fuck you up. Pretty much every flight I've been on recently, people pull out their devices again once the flight attendants are gone. I really wish flights would crack down on this and just start banning the assholes who can't go like 8 full minutes without a screen.
Also airplane seatbelts are kind of a joke for kids. It would not surprise me if a kid came loose and became a deadly projectile.
Flying laptops are a great point. I'll remember to cover my head in my arms the next time I'm landing.
My fav part about a flight is getting off the screen. I just put on tunes and work through a crossword book or try guess where I am from the terrain below. Also catching a sundog is super neat. Feels relaxing.
It's only long flights I'll take a screen for movies or something. I find it very hard to fall asleep if I'm not laying down on my stomach or side, so long flights can be rough.