I'm starting to see stories from Trump voters saying "This isn't what we voted for."
No. It's exactly what you voted for.

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[–] 136 points 2 years ago (15 children)

idk, I feel like we could take a much better approach to this. Instead of just mocking them, maybe point out how they maybe can't trust where they got their idea of who trump was, and maybe to stop supporting him?

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  • [–] 103 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    "If you believed x, maybe it's time to look at who told you x and whether they're a trustworthy source of information"

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    This happened in the UK too with Brexit. When things turned out badly, in the exact way as was predicted, it was "this isn't what I voted for". But the problem was never with the vote itself, it was always the fault of politicians not implementing things correctly, it was the EU's fault for not giving them what they wanted although they voted to be outside of it, experts didn't warn them enough although they ridiculed said experts because the experts didn't went along with the Brexit beliefs.

    It's like trying to be Scully and going against Mulder's "I want to believe".

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    I mean if you read it article it's full of "this is the Democrats fault" and "we made a mistake, but we'll never admit it". So many are still flailing, looking for anyone else to blame and absolve them of a dumbass move.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago

    I guarantee you that the people saying "this isn't what I voted for" voted for him in 2016, 2020, and in 2024.

    They got exactly what they voted for. These people are just surprised that the leopard is eating their face, and not those of darker skin.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Lots of people responding here are missing your point. If somebody you know voted for Trump is now struggling to understand what's going on, and they voice this thought to you, take it as an opportunity. You shouldn't tell them what to do (ie "Don't watch Fox News"), but rather, follow the Socratic Method to guide them to question their sources. Start small - their entire worldview won't shatter in one conversation. But if you see cracks forming in their beliefs, that's something worth fostering.

    No, not everybody is going to see the light. It's important to know your "audience." If you don't believe they're asking in good faith, or if you're not comfortable engaging with them, then please don't do it. At the same time, although it would feel really good to throw a We told you so! at them, it's better saved for rants among like-minds. Responding with such hostility to somebody who already feels used and betrayed isn't going to help them find their way back to reality.

    Remember that we are going to need to be as united as possible on this war against the oligarchs. Whether someone has seen this threat coming for years, or only just now realized what's going on, it's not going to matter in the big picture. It's better to educate than isolate.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Instead of just mocking them, maybe point out how they maybe can't trust where they got their idea of who trump was, and maybe to stop supporting him?

    20 years of pointing out that shit like Fox News was just feels over reals sure did a lot of good on that front.

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  • This works when no faith is involved. Trumpists are a cult. People who believe in something at an irrational level (like what happens with religious fundamentalists) can't be reasoned with. They are way beyond the point where reason works with them. Now only a very hard wake up in the form of a traumatic event will work for them.

    Have you ever tried to convince a very religious person that their god doesn't exist? Same thing.

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    [–] 93 points 2 years ago (30 children)

    No he isn't. They're all fucking thrilled. Where are y'all getting this shit? Trump voters are tap dancing right now.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I saw a news story from conservative women who have government jobs that are now realizing DEI means women too, not just black . Not saying they’re rational but they’re out there

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    [–] 76 points 2 years ago (88 children)

    all the people who refused to vote for kamala must be so pleased with how little palestinian genocide is about to happen. aren't they? well? aren't they?

    no?

    gee it sure sounds like their whole little plan backfired in the worst possible way come to think of it, ACTUALLY.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    It's almost like it could have been easily predicted

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Dawg, the democratic party failed to energize it's base by running a center right campaign with a platform of strong boarders, a strong military, and tax cuts. Them failing to get enough votes is there fault for trying to beat voters with the cudgel of trump while offering nothing to most working families. I voted for Kamala, and even I recognize this. I am really tired of seeing a comment like this every time there's a post about trump. The election is over. Rhetoric like this only divides the left further.

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    [–] 76 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    This is what they voted for and it's what everyone who didn't vote, voted for.

    Just because you're single issue doesn't mean the politicians are.

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    [–] 71 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Maybe, MAYBE in his first term they could pull this “oh no we were fooled” crap but not on his second term.

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    [–] 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If they suffer any consequences from their vote, they'll likely just blame Democrats, or immigrants, or trans people, or [insert scapegoat of the week here].

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago*

    as I have gotten older, the more and more I realize that the story of 1984 isn't really a warning for the general masses but more of a warning to those people that are easily manipulated. The two main characters are so compliant in their suffering.

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    [–] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I see posts like this every now and then, but I'm not convinced this is happening on any real scale. In fact, most pro-Trumpers I've encountered have been making excuses for every shady thing he's done since taking office as "getting America back on track"

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    There’s a big thread on /r/conservative right now circle jerking about how not concerned they all are and how it’s exactly what they voted for. Sure buddy, come back and say that when something shitty Trump does affects YOU which it certainly will.

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is all exactly what I expected from a second Trump presidency and is exactly what I voted against.

    They pre-announced all of this shit with Project 2025.

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Reminds me of the joy when watching interviews with people on the British/Irish border, when they learned they now have to buy their groceries 30 mins further than they were used to. They also said: "we didn't vote for this". What do people expect to happen when they vote for something?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The poster points to this as an example: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/06/trump-arab-americans-dearborn-michigan-00203018

    People are apparently surprised that Bibi’s best friend is anti Palestine. Who could’ve known?

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    "Oh, then this isn't what I thought I voted for."

    It's exactly what you thought you voted for. (They wouldn't admit that they're wrong though)

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    I do not believe in a self reflective Trump supporter. And that says nothing of him fulfilling his promises, many of them tuning out for the ones that they don't like

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    They said that last time too, 75 million people still decided "You know what, at least it's not a liberal black woman". Or something about Gaza. At least it wasn't buttery males this time.

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