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[–] [email protected] 3 points 35 minutes ago

Another one for Tuta, with addy.io as a proxy service. Nice integration with Bitwarden for making new accounts + it's simple to make rules based on the to address for easy filtering.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I've been using Tuta for damn near a decade, and it's been great for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I just got an account and had no idea it's that old

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Existed since 2011

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

Perhaps an indirect answer, but I'm using a duck.com forwarder whenever i need to give any address, these days. On top of tracker filtering and random alias generator, once i change addresses I'll only have to update the forwarders destination.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Just leaving my vote for fastmail. They are wicked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 46 minutes ago

I was with fastmail for more than a decade.

They're the best platform.

Their spam protection is so-so. Not as good as Gmail but better than some others.

Their pricing is egregiously expensive.

Their tech support is painfully slow for anything above chatGPT level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I really like and use fastmail.

Although I have just started to try to completely de-google. Its a bit frustrating that they don't offer an apk download. I put in a ticket today saying as much.

They seemed to understand,but basically just said that all I can do is to use the browser version.

I'm using aurora store to download their official google play version for now but it feels icky.

They are obviously now the only ones that I am having trouble with but I thought that they might be more willing to help people distance themselves from Gmail and Google, as Gmail is their obvious competition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 59 minutes ago

ahh aurora store is perfectly fine. I use it with an anonymous session. I think there should be sites that let you download the APK directly, but you wouldn't get updates.

It's probably fine to use one of these methods, just don't forget to update. 😁

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Tutamail, they have direct access by fdroid too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

If you really wanna get started with your own domain I highly recommend just getting https://purelymail.com/ setup for the hosting provider. It's going to be way cheaper than just about anything and you pay for what you use. I've been on it for a few years and never had a problem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Mailbox.org

Mailbox Standard compared to ProtonMail Plus:

  • Cheaper (€30/yr vs ~€50/yr; if you don't need custom domains, €1/mo)
  • More aliases (25 on mailbox, 50 on own domain. Proton has 10 TOTAL - why custom domain aliases are counted against Proton ones does not make sense to me.)
  • Support for any number of custom domains AFAICT (Proton Plus supports only one)
  • Trial account is not allowed to send emails, so fewer issues with services blacklisting proton.me and protonmail.com for spam (hasn't happened to me, but I have heard of some cases)
  • Can use a regular email client (security tradeoff for E2EE messages - but there already were plenty of discussions on whether E2EE has benefits, especially sending mail to other services)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks. I'm on my second year in my bi-year purchase and considering options. Where's mailbox.org located and what are their privacy policies regarding government agencies requests?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

They're located in Germany and have to fulfill requests, they publish a yearly transparency report about that: https://mailbox.org/en/post/transparency-report-2024

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What hardware is needed if you want to run this cheap and quiet? What you are using?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago

I recommended looking up the problems with self hosting a mail server first. Just go with Tuta imo, its cheaper and easier.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

A couple months ago, I would have said Proton. But....

Here we are.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I switched to Proton about 6 months ago.

Wish I had waited. Ah well.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Domains are cheap, buy one and then you can jump between whatever services aren't caught up in the outrage of the moment.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 15 hours ago (12 children)

Buying your own domain.
You can then use whatever provider, or host your email service... but at least you don't need to change addresses when switching anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

MXRoute is what I use as my domain's email server and it's good enough. The included browser email clients (it offers multiple) are sort of trash but if you just use your own it's perfect. It's pretty cheap too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I started doing this, maybe 15 years ago, but if I look through my spam folder now, most of it is to the email address I used before I began using unique addresses (the rest is to random addresses in my domains that I've never used).

My hypotheses from that are that

  • there is probably less 'selling of email lists' going on than we think
  • I'm less interested in dubious internet sites than I used to be
  • or (most likely) these days, your internet thing has to be offering me some real value if I'm going to consciously give you any of my data.
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

disroot and autistici have been providing decentralised communication services (like email) free of cost for many years. They are both run by activists and survive on donations, and they don't spy on you or get any money from your data. Also they run freedom-respecting software, so all their code is publicly auditable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

I'm actually busy setting up my own mail server. On my own infrastructure, using public static IPs etc. I'm done with all these other mail providers. I'm going back to the start.

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