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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced Trump’s sudden 25% tariffs, warning they threaten American jobs and will inflate consumer costs.

He revealed that Trump refuses to take his calls and sharply criticized claims linking tariffs to illegal immigration and fentanyl crossing U.S. borders.

In retaliation, Canada and Mexico imposed matching tariffs, targeting crucial American exports like auto parts, agriculture, and red-state staples like famous Kentucky bourbon.

Trudeau warned American factories may shut, citing integrated supply chains.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Here are some numbers to consider.

The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.

Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.

The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.

Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.

Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.

Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.

Who isn't pulling their weight in this trading relationship?

This isn't about illegal immigration and it isn't about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.

This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

This comment is a copypasta

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

That makes sense. And Congress is bought and just watching. Well, between calls to their brokers to buy!

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good.

Imagine after less than two weeks in office, you're threatening and blackmailing other nations into being annexed by you and thinking this makes you the good guy in this scenario.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Not any other nations, some of your closest allies and trade partners. It's fucking bonkers...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I doubt he thinks he's the good guy and I'm certain he doesn't care.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Look at his official president photo, he wants to be an evil mastermind

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My impression is that he thinks morality is dumb, basically. He's the protagonist of his own story, to the degree you'd expect from a raging narcissist, but not every story has a protagonist that's good.

[–] [email protected] 220 points 2 days ago (18 children)

I really believe Trump is refusing calls from Trudeau like its a power move in a high stakes negotiations. Instead its an idiot, Trump, doing something dumb and an actual intelligent adult is trying to tell him how dumb he is and he won't listen.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

His brain operates like a hamster and wheel. The issue is that the hamster died a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

That poor thing has been lifelessly spinning for at least 9 years now... Someone should put it out of its misery.

I know Luigi doesn't traditionally deal with hamsters, but he does have experience with general extermination, so maybe it'll translate.


Of course I am talking about the Mario bros and their turtle extermination side hustle... For legal reasons.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (5 children)

He's acting like his allies are enemies and not countries you want to cooperate with for the common good.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Or he is doing what his Russian master (Putin) wants..

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's proof that it's not about the economy which would mean the door is always open to negotiate a better deal. It's not about drugs since Canada could be calling to say, "We've made X changes to reduce drug trade."

So that begs the question: what is this all about?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So that begs the question: what is this all about?

Wrecking the economy so billionaires can buy up infrastructure at fire-sale prices?

[–] bradinutah 11 points 1 day ago

This is Putin getting his Puppet to weaken the USA to promote Putin's goals. Donvict is a Russian asset. A weak USA helps Russia and BRICS, especially for objectives like Ukraine. Other players, like the oligarchs, are also beholden to Putin.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 days ago (10 children)

If you are a Canadian or Mexican please contact your representatives and have them do a more targeted tariff plan. Target American red states directly! Oil tariffs should be universal but anything made in red states and counties should have a 100% tariff. Force industry and goods to flow through blue areas and Trump's support will crumble.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As the other posters have pointed out, we're already on it. Which, no offence, is a symptom of why we don't want to be part of the US - our government actually works.

I looked over the official list, and it's stupid detailed. Like, a couple of goods mentioned are papers for wrapping cigars and fitted cases for church bells.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

According to this (see first 2 minutes), they are specifically trying to target red states in hopes of getting republicans to try and intervene with trump.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

T came out of the gate, clearly rewarding loyalty and smashing dissent. No red state is going to budge. It's like T watched a CPG Grey on Monarchy.

And even if they did and tried, he's not listening to anyone but his handlers.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (12 children)

This assumes the people in the red States would see the chain of causation, which is unlikely.

It will create an enemy out of the taxing countries. I dont have a better idea but at this point his base will never turn from him.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Trump's base is a lost cause, but the pain may get the soft Dem voters to get off their arses and turn out for the next election.

Nothing will shift Maga, so appealing to them is wasted.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (5 children)

If Canada just stopped selling aluminum and steel to the US, it would heavily affect aerospace and military manufacturing.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 days ago (16 children)

There is nothing other countries can really do about this except impose tariffs in kind. When american inflation goes up I hope Americans put stickers on gas pumps and more eating "Trump did this"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Canada could start ignoring American intellectual property rights, or shutting off power exports to places like NY.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago

He was talking directly to the American People, as he mentioned right before this quote.

But it seems American media is invested in keeping the American people uninvested. Like this is between two leaders and we just get to watch.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Who would risk investing millions into a factory when you have no idea when your materials could be randomly taxed/tariffed. Was literally working on factory plans in Troy, MI when this put a permanent hold on it. Relying on Quebec aluminum like many others. No sense continuing if we have to use Chinese aluminum, just expand the China facility instead.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I work in automation in SEMI. My idiot conservative boss is convinced that this will help us by bringing manufacturing from Mexico.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Please! We're in dire need of consequences.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Good. Hit us with your best shot. We deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It's baffling how foreign relations 101 gets completely thrown out the window by this shining idiot. It is SO important to establish good trade and relations with your bordering countries, and what does this guy do? The exact opposite.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

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