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[-] aaron@lemm.ee 247 points 1 year ago
[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 38 points 1 year ago

An irony curtain.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 171 points 1 year ago

What, you mean like Microsoft, uh, OpenAI did?

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago

Yep, NOW it's a problem, though! Because it's someone else doing the same thing, someone who isn't part of the human centipede starting at Trump's colon.

[-] konomikitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 152 points 1 year ago
[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 1 year ago

It’s no crime to steal from a thief.

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[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Stealing from thieves isn't a crime.

Especially not when China turns around and Robin Hoods it back to the world.

Just saying.

[-] LappingDog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Making R1 open source really makes it such a big FU to all the grifters asking for billions for AI in the us. Especially funny because high-flyer is a hedge fund firm themselves. The ai race should only be determined by what you do with it, not protecting how much IP you hoovered up and are now trying to cry about it being copied by others.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

“You can’t steal that public data! We stole it first!”

And considering that’s exactly what Microsoft did to Apple with point and click, what irony!

They both stole point and click from Xerox if my memory serves me correctly

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Apple did pay Xerox for it if I'm remembering right

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[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Oh really? **Rabbit hole unlocked

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcb-XF1RPQ

The relevant part of Pirates of Silicon Valley. After which you should watch the whole thing. It’s fan fiction, but it’s the best explanation of what happened between Apple and Microsoft leading into the 1990s.

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[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

What data? they one OpenAI illegally obtained first?!

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m sure now that OpenAI accuses DeepSeek of stealing they will now prove that they have rights to things that are being stolen, right? XD

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Somebody better call the WAHMBULANCE!

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[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 35 points 1 year ago

Are they worried that deepsink too stuff written by others, mixed it up, and repackaged it as it's own?

Well, yeah, that's all AI is. An expensive weighted pachinko machine, that uses human made content, and remixes it.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The question isn't whether they've used the same information. It's whether they've faked the process to achieve that 20x efficiency.

Look at it like a dictionary. Writing one from scratch is a huge task, no matter how many other books exist. How do you even go about finding all of the words?

But if other people have already written dictionaries, you can just use their word lists and go from there.

It's more efficient, but only because it's a completely different task.

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Is it worth it? Let me work it I put my thing down, flip it and reverse it

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Time to talk about data rights :)

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 30 points 1 year ago

What’s the game plan if they did?

Trade restrictions?

China already proved those did fuck all to stop them from developing their own model.

Ducking knew this ai bubble would burst sooner or later, just glad we can finally get on with it now.

[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

I ducking knew it too, I've been a long for the ride though. The models still do have some niche applications where they're actually useful.

This whole thing with OpenAI and Microsoft whinging about fair play is truly laughable though. What clowns.

As a side note, it took a few tries to write ducking, my keyboard kept correcting it to fucking. We're definitely 2 different people. Lol.

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[-] tux0r@feddit.org 26 points 1 year ago

So that means that Microsoft will pay compensation to us, right?

[-] daddy32@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Lol its like fucking lavrov from fucking russia screaming "this is against international law" when Europe froze their assets.

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Article from ft https://www.ft.com/content/a0dfedd1-5255-4fa9-8ccc-1fe01de87ea6

https://archive.is/D9whR

Looks like Microsoft is bracing for today’s earnings call

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

When a writer copies someone else's work without cites or compensation, it's called "plagiarism." But when an AI does it, it's called "LLM training."

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 19 points 1 year ago

Unless that AI is not OpenAI, then it's "plagiarism" still.

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[-] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

When you can't beat em, sue em. It's the American way.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

"Tom, if irony was strawberries we'd all be drinking smoothies right now"

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago

Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained data the same way OpenAI did. --FTFY

[-] Deepus@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

What the fuck is Microsoft getting involved for?! Maybe concentrate on not providing shitty fucking software fuck heads!

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

They have a large stake in OpenAI, last I checked.

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago

OMG Competition!

QUICK, they're a foreign threat! They're coming right for us!!!!

[-] spearz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

"Waaaaah" you say?

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