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Summary

Proton Mail, known for its privacy-first email services, faced backlash after CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party and its antitrust stance.

The company initially posted and deleted a statement supporting Yen’s comments, later claiming an “internal miscommunication” and reiterating its political neutrality.

Critics question Proton’s impartiality, particularly as it cooperates with Swiss authorities on legal data requests.

Privacy advocates warn that political alignments could undermine trust, especially for Proton’s users—journalists and activists wary of government surveillance under administrations like Trump’s.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

My stance on Proton is my stance on GrapheneOS: just because the creator is bad doesn't mean the software is bad. As long as the software is better compared to the alternatives then I seen no reason to stop using it.

Note: better can mean more privacy-friendly, cost-friendly, sustainable, nice to use, open, etc.

Oddly enough, I found the opposite to be true with companies like Nestle: the news of them killing children makes me dislike their chocolates.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't know much about the creator of GrapheneOS. What's the bad about them? I know they're a little dogmatic, as security/FOSS folk can sometimes be, but I've not heard anything beyond that.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago

Good news for them, I’m “financially neutral”

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Okay, can someone help me, a tech illiterate, choose a new vpn, email provider, and password manager? I'd really prefer open source.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

Vpn: Mullvad

Email: Tuta / tutanota

Password manager: Bitwarden or 1password

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

VPN: Mullvad

Password manager: Bitwarden
(or if you are advanced user, KeePassXC + Syncthing for full control of your DB)

Email: I use Tuta, but I am honestly not that confident in it to recommend it, unlike the above.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Correction; the CEO posted a rather tone deaf message. while this is incredibly dumb, it should be little reason to burn the company to the ground

Having said that, people should start looking at email again how it was designed to be: have thousands of open providers instead of the tiny fee enormous ones we got now

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure hope their praises don't include giving your data to their heroes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They would hand over your liver for an atta-boy and a small government contract.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For me, the most-used Proton service after email is their calendar. What privacy-friendly calendar alternatives are there that you can recommend?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Both my new service candidates, mailbox.org and posteo, offer calendars. However, I’m in a holding pattern currently since they are German based. Fuckface is meddling in their elections now, which happen at the end of Feb. so I’m holding off to see how much ground the Afd gains.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Already started migrating away. Canceled my paid plan.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (12 children)

gonna quickly post here, since I don't know quite where else would be good, but I noticed sometime last year that the website, https://standardnotes.com/ (a product owned by proton) seems to use a massive amount of AI generated imagery.

also: I thought I was a fool for not getting lifetime visionary when I could, now a little less so :)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

With this president flattery will get you everything. If you don't publicly praise him he will come for you and your users.

I am not saying that I love the endorsement, I do understand it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

But he has absolutely no reason to do so. That's like VPNs bowing to Trump.

The lack of risk, especially when the average Proton user is actively looking for privacy/security from tech companies who bow to government, makes this endorsement even more sinister than it should be.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Proton is based in Switzerland. If anything, I get the message that the only services that are Trump-proof are based in China or France, because everybody else has lost their fucking mind.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The thing is, he raises a lot of very accurate points about the Democratic party. Dems are captured by corporations; they're unwilling to do what the people want, and what is in the best interests of the people, because that hurts their flow of money. And yes, tech companies are kissing Trump's ass because he's volatile enough that he could very well regulate them out of business if they aren't sucking his dick. Additionally, prior to his MAGA phase, Vance does appear to have been much more populist in his approach to corporations; he was saying some of the right things, even if his social policies were trash.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The Swiss just can't help themselves

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