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[–] 121 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Positives ... Good AI features

Negatives ... No 4K recording on all lenses

Some people just have different priorities.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    If I'm paying $900 for a phone, you'd better believe that 4K30 is the barest of bare minimums I'm expecting that rear camera to do unless it's a deliberate tradeoff for something more ethical like a Fairphone. The Pixel 9 base model can shoot at 4K60 and 1080p240 (256 GB and the same $900 price). "Good AI features" lmfao blow it out your ass, Asus. I wonder where this comparison chart is coming from anyway.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    My 2022 iPhone SE, that I bought new for about $550, records 4K at 60fps.

    I’m a little shocked that isn’t the base standard for all smartphones now.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I don't care about camera quality at all, I much prefer longevity, performancd, ports, other sensors, custom ROM and root support. And so, most smartphones of manufacturers chasing the trend of camera quality, especially if they are 1k+, are not fit for me.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Negatives - only 128gb storage

    WTF who writes this shite?

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    [–] 96 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Gsmarena is a better site to use for comparison of technical specs, if you care about those.

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    [–] 86 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    how is "ultra-portable" a positive, when all these phone are the same size, and not even small phones at all?

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Yeah, these pro/con lists are just random bullshit with 0 accountability and consistency.

    The only useful comparisons are ones that show the actual specs side by side, and even then it doesn't tell the whole story.

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    [+] 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

    Fairphone 5

    positives:

    • nicely built
    • user servicable with replaceable components
    • no AI shit
    • eco friendly
    • 8 years of service updates

    negatives:

    • its a bit more expensive for its specs
    • cameras are a bit on the downlow but still good enough
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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I feel like this phone should be good for most users. Most people don't need to take super high quality photos or play demanding games on their phones.

    Sure it costs a bit more per performance, but I think it is gonna be worth the price in the long run.

    I have a FP4 that I plan to have until end of software support. I will likely have to get a new battery in the future, but that's a breeze since it takes a minute to change and it is affordable, especially compared to many phones that are basically dead once the battery is bad.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I got an FP5 just a few months ago, very happy. Currently running E-Os on it. Big upgrade on the FP3 that it replaced. Liked the 3 but it was getting way to slow. It's not very expensive, considering it's fairtrade!

    The performance is perfect, and who can say no to support until 2031😃

    Edit: the best feature of a Fairphone is the high horse it comes with😉

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    why would you choose any of the asuses?

    "nicely built", and "sleek design" are not positives, but made up qualities. That's basically a goal for all phone manufacturers

    "good AI features". sorry what? do they mean the power button opens the assist lant instead of the shutdown menu? or that the device sends home an order of magnitude more information about you than usual?

    "ultra portable"? what the fuck does that mean for a fucking smartphone?

    and "univeral fast charging" means it's glued in battery will wear out ultra fast.

    buy a pixel if you don't care about keeping it for a long time, and about having a removable battery. otherwise get a fairphone

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago

    Those comparison charts like the one you posted are unresearched/uncritical garbage made to sell affiliate links. They'll never actually give a harsh review to anything listed because they want you to buy something

    Your best bet is to ask owners' groups for each phone you're considering for reviews and buying advice and weighing that yourself.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Of these 3, the Pixel 9. It can run both GrapheneOS and CalyxOS.

    The Pixel 8a can also run both, but it only costs $400. CalyxOS will support both phones until 2031.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    pixel, so you can run GrapheneOS

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Depends on your priorities but I'd also say Pixel even if keeping stock, best update policy

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’d love more info on the “confusing charging situation”.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Lol at the last phones "pro" being "ultra portable".

    Unless this means that programs and such can be ported to it, aren't all cell phones ultra portable? Isn't that the point?

    To me that's like saying a pro of a specific model of car is that it is "ultra drivable"

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    God can these people keep AI out of phones?

    Even those stupid "AI" camera features can fuck off, they always make the photo worse, unless all the do is pick a filter and adjust the saturation/brightness/contrast/etc. as soon as the do something unreversable like add blurring, they can fuck off because it always looks janky AF in real world use

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    No OnePlus?

    I have had OP8 for few years now and its still working perfectly fine. Battery could be better but other than that its still fast and reliable.

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    You might want to specify what your requirements are in a phone - this might help us :)

    Also, have you tried the following communities?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Is there a particular reason you need a brand new model? I tend to look at flagships that are a year or two old.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    None. Pixel if you had to pick, but the SoC sucks. And the Asus phones have like no software support, so they are definitely not worth buying.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Personally, when I can afford it I'm going to go for the OnePlus Nord N10 5G. I don't feel the need for the more stringent security hardening on GrapheneOS, so basic LineageOS MicroG is enough for me.

    I hate the lack of a headphone jack enough to make that tradeoff, vs a Google Pixel.

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    [–] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I had a similar inquiry, I think the conclusion is Pixel. It's not ideal but they're supporting updates for 7 years now which is a good push towards deshitification. And as others put, it can have custom firmware which can prolong that even longer (or if you want out of that Google ecosystem).

    Haven't took the leap yet though. I'm typing this from a hand me down Galaxy S10 that's held together with rubber bands because the back glass became unglued. I haven't had updates in a while but bs Knox protection threatens to brick the thing if I flash a new firmware. Pixels are expensive, though.

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    [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Fairphone if you lay weight with the environment, Pixel for Graphene if you value privacy.
    Of those three otherwise, the pixel

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    I'm very happy with my OnePlus 12. I'd recommend looking into them as an option.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    the fourth one.

    I mean, come on is it that hard to at least give us some context? What you're looking for in your next phone, why you're hesitating? Stuff like that so, you know, we can at least try to guess what kind of answer you may be looking for ;)

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    samsung galaxy S10. headphone jack, expandable micro SD storage, none of the bloatware.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I love my Nothing Phone 2. Check them out.

    Of the 3, probably Pixel,but if definitely we flashing it.

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    Google now provides a full 7 years of parts and updates for the pixel 8 and 9. Samsung may I think now do 7 years of updates on some phones no idea about parts though.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I feel like I could buy 8 of my phone with that money.

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