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More and more people are saying this! But seriously, in the gulag you'll get human rights but certainly not a loaded machine gun like unrestricted internet access to stalk, bully, and harass people to self-harm.

Fascists deserve as many human rights as they believe others should have

So yes. None 😊

Not getting harassed by internet fascists should be a human right too, but the only 'rights' they care about are the ones that expand their bourgeois consumerism.

it must be for everyone, or it is for no one

The nazis must be let into the restaurant, or else no one should ever be seated

They can still... use the rest of the internet... after the site is taken down...?

Also, who's version of legality? I very much doubt Mr "Let the law handle the Nazis" is going to be happy if Iran or Saudi Arabia tried to take down porn sites due to their local laws.

Of course, that's a rhetorical question. Whenever someone talks like this they always mean American/Western laws, which they assume should apply universally.

Agreed.

Because moral victory is good for the bourgeois state, while material victory is not

They're libs

Capitalist ideology in general, Žižek maintains, consists precisely in the overvaluing of belief – in the sense of inner subjective attitude – at the expense of the beliefs we exhibit and externalize in our behavior. So long as we believe (in our hearts) that capitalism is bad, we are free to continue to participate in capitalist exchange.

• Capitalist Realism chapter 2

Because moral victories don't cost as much to the ruling class.

They are part of the non-profit industrial complex. They make money by appealing to hardship and selling gains, not by directly assaulting systems of oppression. If they did, they would be quickly outlawed, perhaps branded a terrorist organization. They also ensure their own power and relevance through integration with that oppressive system and its centers of power. The EFF makes most of its money from "charitable organizations", i.e. rich people's kids' orgs that function as cheap PR due to tax write-offs, i.e. mouthpieces of the bourgeoisie. The ACLU is a libertarian org in bed with all kinds of corporate goons, again via "charitable organizations". It's actually a pretty great example of the limits of reformism and the way that radical movements are coopted into snd subsumed by capital, as it began as something much cooler.

context don't real, everything is a frictionless, spherical concept in a vacuum

Nonsense built upon stilts

it was down for like a week at best

I respected her fight but in the end it just shows how pathetic the state of human rights is in the West. I would assume that in a normal society, those who run a website like kiwifarms would be arrested on the grounds of causing mental and physical harm to innocent human beings.

What Keffals could only do was pressure various corporations that lie in the junctions between kiwifarms servers and the user. Her movement would pressure the private DNS provider, the private VPS host and Cloudflare inc. to stop having kiwifarms as customers. I think Cloudflare dropped them but I am not sure what things are like now.

This is not an indictment of Keffals and her efforts but rather of the justice systems of the developed world. FBI will hunt you down to the innermost circles of hell if you are sharing pirated books (b-ok.cc) or are downloading academic papers like Swartz was but if you are running a fascist cesspool you are given a pass probably because they recruit or entrap from there.