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[CW: suicide] Kiwifarms/EFF struggle session over on dot world (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Ledditors griefing over internet "censorship" and muh freeze peach principles that were apparently violated when effective, direct measures were used to combat fascism.

I don’t think we should ever celebrate people being deplatformed...If the content is illegal pursue legal means to punish the posters...But let’s say they win, and they get the domain blocked everywhere. They’ll just launch a new domain, just like all the pirate streaming sites do.

Are you implying you shouldn't try to do anything because the fascists will (deterministically) win? Hence why the people trying to shut them down went straight to the ISPs because they know they can win the ISPs over on moral grounds?

[...] you have to decide if the internet is a human right or not. If it is, it must be for everyone, or it is for no one. As soon as we make exceptions to basic rights, those rights get eroded for everyone. Because people in power will bend the exceptions to political expediency.

Fascists don't deserve basic rights.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I respected her fight but in the end it just shows how pathetic the state of human rights is in the West. I would assume that in a normal society, those who run a website like kiwifarms would be arrested on the grounds of causing mental and physical harm to innocent human beings.

What Keffals could only do was pressure various corporations that lie in the junctions between kiwifarms servers and the user. Her movement would pressure the private DNS provider, the private VPS host and Cloudflare inc. to stop having kiwifarms as customers. I think Cloudflare dropped them but I am not sure what things are like now.

This is not an indictment of Keffals and her efforts but rather of the justice systems of the developed world. FBI will hunt you down to the innermost circles of hell if you are sharing pirated books (b-ok.cc) or are downloading academic papers like Swartz was but if you are running a fascist cesspool you are given a pass probably because they recruit or entrap from there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She should be indicted for other things, she's kind of a shit human being