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Well, thank you for feeling comfortable enough to vent your frustrations. Doing so has more meaning here on Lemmy than screaming into the void of Reddit, for what it's worth.

This is a genuine concern and I do get tired if it myself sometimes. Users here can be extreme.

Have you considered beehaw? Their primary focus is to "be nice", although I think they're only federated with a limited set of instances.

a lot of people came here because they were shitty enough to get perma banned from reddit

im just guessing with that but its probably true with the attitude these people have

Lemmy: What the fuck do you mean, "you use Windows"

Regardless of the community, those people exist. The thing with lemmy, and federation as a whole, is you essentially have to curate your own experience.

Joining a specific instance over another gives you a starting point on that, but even then you're going to have a more wild west than you get from one of the centralized sites. That's both a boon and a curse as there is no algorithm trying to feed you whatever to keep you engaged. Reddit is less algorithm driven than other sites, but there is some secret sauce they are working with that seems to weight the votes on things.

As for user comments. Reddit has enough people that the assholes can get suppressed, especially if the subreddit is moderated well, but it's mostly down to how active the community is and what the community vibe is. Mods can't see everything so rely a lot on user reports.

Also, because of how a lot of people think, most average users went to lemmy.world because it was the easy option. A lot of communities on there are going to be much more rife with that kind of person that somewhere else.

For someone who grew up with the early internet this is a familiar experience, but if all you know is the post social media algorithm driven state things have been for the last 15 or so years then I can see how it could be daunting. There were certainly communities I avoided back in the ancient internet because of overly toxic people who think being mean is being funny because they are a teenager trying to be edgy or never grew out of that mindset.

As for the question you asked them, it's one of my biggest things I think fediverse stuff could be better on. Like, we obviously don't want algorithms, but its kind of hard to find communities that are active without actively searching. And many times you don't know about things you might be interested in. A simple "people you follow like this" or "people who follow this also follow this other thing" and have an ability to turn it off.

I’m sorry you’re experiencing this kind of behaviour, you deserved better than that interaction.

Personally, I have met a lot of hostile users from sjw and lemmyworld. So I’m going to do what Beehaw did and block out their instances completely. Besides the smaller instances need more love, the fediverse works best when it is decentralized.

I'm too new to be making these kinds of suggestions and I'm far from the moderator type myself but multiple times throughout this week, I've been thinking that it would be pretty cool if there was an AskBlåhaj. Or even just general Ask Lemmy based here, that could be asking for unwanted attention from shitty people on other instances though.

Not even 24 hours after seeing this post, I've seen someone else getting the snark and a non answer for a simple question. And also a Blåhaj user.

As much of a public bathroom as it could be, AskReddit was pretty fun for 'silly' questions and general chatting. And a nice place for new users to hang around and gain karma and confidence. But with the gatekeeper neckbeardy types around, maybe what it needs on Lemmy is to be in an instance with rules that promote friendliness and good vibes.

Just an idea to throw out there anyway.

Keep this in mind and stay. We need and want you here.

I asked a vegan what the word "carnist" was and got banned, lol. You're right, there's a lot of angry folk on here...and it's hilarious

Obviously I'm generalising here, but I feel like this is largely the outcome of putting a bunch of middle-aged white STEM bros on the same small social media network as a bunch of queer communists who trend a lot younger.

The latter group would be mostly content keeping to itself (albeit with the usual amount of infighting), but the former group sees it as its god-given duty to barge in and disrupt any and all "echo chambers" they happen into online. They have all the social awareness and political literacy of the stereotypical facebook boomer, they're just more technically literate.

To be clear, a lot of folks here are perfectly amicable, but if the quality of the experience on Reddit hadn't dropped so drastically in the last two and a half years that I found myself questioning my sanity I probably wouldn't have come back here.

It's absolutely been worse here lately. I don't know that I'd call it worse than reddit, but Lemmy is definitely trending more toxic. I'm certainly not a heavy user by any means. Idk if the more reasonable voices have just become less active or if more toxic voices have arrived or what, but where as 6+ months ago things tended to be more discussion prone than antagonistic, it's now mostly antagonistic, especially in the more popular communities.

I will say, I've left many of the lemmy.ml communities in favor of similar communities on other servers and that's helped as far as making my feed of posts less toxic to boot (and less spammy).

I haven't done much of my own moderation in blocking so I'm running mostly based on the server moderation.

Lemmy really needs to focus on improving the default UI, and making it as easy as possible for users to sign in and start seeing posts etc.

Especially on mobile, it was a nightmare for me to figure out which app, which instance etc. most people would have given up by then.

People are used to having a very smooth process when using social media etc. and Lemmy is really lacking in that department.