Fediverse memes

Was just talking with a friend that downloaded a Mastodon app a while back when Twitter was bought by Elon, encountered the "Choose a server" bit, and bailed after choice paralysis. They're technical and have a doctorate in Computer Science so it's not like they couldn't figure it out, but there's something in the human psyche where most people don't want to make choices like that. They're on Bluesky now and think its great.

IMO sites like https://pixelfed.org/how-to-join and https://join-lemmy.org/ should just have a normal sign up flow, and load balance between all servers that opt in. Looks like that's going to happen for Pixelfed:

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/113830788279211715

It'll make some people unhappy, but that's just how you get "normies" onto the Fediverse.

Yeah sorry but no. Lemmy sucks and the fediverse is an overly complicated mess of in groups, our groups, federated and non federated communities and people will be racist to you and and you can also end up indoctrinated just as much by picking the wrong community starting point.

Wondering why people aren't here doesn't take a big mystery and despite all the people in here with blinders for all kinds of topics I'm not shocked that anyone looking in would be disgusted, compare this place to 4chan with user names and move on.

the children yearn for the vines

We're right here and we suck, mate. FOSS almost always sucks.

Besides, many Lemmy users have been very clear that they do not want the fediverse to have more reach. We don't try to appeal to TikTok users. We don't want to make space for them.

Regarding the fediverse at large...

I believe that this is a design issue. Instances are designed so that they function like categories. That categories then have subcategories.

The issue is that with user distribution, you can't then just assign users round robin distribute the load. This leads to what we now have which is very confusing to the end user.

Users was a centralized experience. The duplication of communities is a prime example of the bad design.

In the abstract, I would consider putting all instances in a pool. Each instance runs a different community, with servers also duplicating x number of communities for the sake of redundancy (instance goes offline, content still exists on another server). It's complicated, and has it's own issues/flaws, but I believe that from a high level view, it is a better design in general.

The current system is just a mess unfortunately.

Perhaps there could be a hybrid of these two approaches that would be superior.

My back of the napkin design prioritizes user experience and ease of use. That said, I can immediately think of a few downsides.

"This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren't controlled by the same few oligarchs," Quintin said. "People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks."

Once again...meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

“This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren’t controlled by the same few oligarchs,”

So they move (and apparently willingly provide more access to their info than they already need to) to a platform that is controlled by a different few oligarchs, as a treat.. 🙄

Also, you say we're right here, but the number of people already here praising this shit* because they're either tankies simping for faux communists, or simply too indoctrinated to realise that you don't have to choose one, and can oppose both oppressive states (which use almost identical tactics), is pretty fucking gross.

*and before they descend on me with their bullshit and excuses and their throwing of marginalised people under the bus for the sake of maintaining their own black and white view of the world - yes Chinese and American people communicating and breaking down barriers is good. However the idea that this can honestly and freely be done on their oppressive state controlled media, any more than it can on ours, or that one is somehow less oppressive than the other, is a joke, and so are the people ignoring the fact that both states have equally terrible mass surveillance and control over our communications.

Maybe people want a platform that’s more than just a constant Linux and capitalism-bad circlejerk sprinkled with some basic news and askreddit-type threads.

"people are thirsty for platforms that aren't controlled by the same few oligarchs" so they're willingly submitting to and supporting CCP tyrannical oppression because they personally have never felt it's raw evil, "Fuck the Chinese" I guess, huh

Lol. I'm not actually surprised at all that the country that just elected Junior Hitler again is literally begging to be fucked by the CCP. You REALLY cannot fix stupid and stupid is now the vast majority.