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i've never seen so many americans excited about china and the chinese language. good stuff, folks

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 6 days ago

If even .01% of the Americans joking about learning Chinese actually dip a toe into the language, culture, and (god forbid) history… mega self own from the us state

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago

Whole lotta folks are gonna find out they have more in common with the FOREIGN ADVERSARY™'s citizens than with their own government

[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As the redditors pissed about this love to cite... It's the Streisand Effect.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 days ago

Redditors are pissed about this? Oh god I need to see this, I need to taste their tears.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I finally started getting my verification codes. Like, hours later. It's an improvement.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

maybe the servers will recover and it'll work again

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

One of the first things I was served upon opening the app was a Frieran meme. China really pointed at me and said "weeb".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It would be so fucking funny if this backfired so spectacularly that it resulted in the total collapse of the "China bad" narrative in the US.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

It would be nice. More probably, it also gets banned before that happens.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I have a Chinese buddy who studied in America and now lives in Hong Kong. He tried to teach me how to pronounce stuff in Mandarin and oh my god its so hard.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (9 children)

"how hard can it be if babies do it" is usually my mantra when I try learning languages

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Babies have special brain shit going on the helps them learn super fast. My ancient and decaying brain matter is no match.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I don't know fam, most adults with very directed study/practice can become fully fluent in a language in about a year. Babies take like whaat, 5 or 6 years before they start to become regularly coherent? And their vocabulary still sucks for years after that.

You have the advantage of already knowing way more than babies so you've got more to build on.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Oh i bet the chinese users are stoooookkkeeddd about a bunch of yanks polluting their space

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's the internet, if regular people from different groups, especially Americans and Chinese, the former of whom's government and media has been fomenting a cold war and racist propaganda for decades, can get together and have regular interactions I see that as an absolute win.

Luxemburg emphasized: “There can be no socialism outside the international solidarity of the proletariat.”

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I love how comments there can have pictures in them, unlike TikTok. Someone posts dog and they get a dog tax paid stamp in reply

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago

They don't care, and I'm have a feeling that the app will not put up with nonsense from foreigners. This is not a Meta subsidiary, don't forget.

As an example (as others have mentioned on here) that your country (or province, if inside the PRC) is shown on your profile cause of all the trolling from the Taiwanese.

If they need to ban Americans I'm sure they would, but why do that when you can just moderate them? At least give it a try...

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Most Americans will just go to instagram/facebook/twitter unfortunately

The great Satan won this round I’m afraid. Still though, I’m really curious to see some metrics (if those are even available anywhere)

[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One very funny statistic for now

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Is Lemon8 the app for organizing lemon parties

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

It's ByteDance's image based app, for people who don't want to doomscroll short form videos and just doomscroll still images/landscapes/image macros instead.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 days ago

like another commentor said, any amount of americans being exposed to chinese culture is a positive.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Found something a bit weird, on profiles it looks like it shows users’ “IP Address”? But also that’s not long enough to be an IP address, and it’s not even made up of numbers? Can someone who knows Chinese clarify what this is?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

All major social media platforms in China were ordered by law to reveal IP location (just the cities) of their users since April 2022 because a lot of anti-Russia comments were made by Taiwanese trolls when the war in Ukraine started.

Most Chinese people are Russia simps and the social media fights got really ugly flamed by trolls, so they decided to just reveal the IP location of the users instead.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago (7 children)

It says Beijing. Probably just the geolocation of the IP address.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Mark my words, if the Supreme Court finds out about this, they're overturning the Tiktok ban immediately.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago

i can't help because the verification doesn't wori for me, but it's really cool to see

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Is there a trick to creating an account? I get errors whichever means of verification I try.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago

Servers are slammed. It might be a bit

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I tried to make an account months ago to practice Chinese, but it didn't work because of the verification texts. Let me know if someone has strats to make it more likely to go thru.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I downloaded the app but the UI is in Chinese

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago

to change it to english to have to click the bottom left option on the home page, then click on the gear which takes you to settings, then the other gear, then the top option and then you can select english

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Making a top level comment cause lots of people in this thread just spreading blatant misinformation regarding the ability to learn languages as a child versus an adult. No investigation no right to speak.

https://www.nature.com/articles/1301553

Unique childhood plasticity has been demonstrated particularly in the areas of vision, audition, motor, and language abilities

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10149040

The ability to learn certain aspects of language, however, is limited after early childhood. This sensitive period for language learning makes it an important model system for the study of developmental plasticity in children.

Another clarifying example is when people who immigrate to a new country at different ages attempt to learn a second language. When the amount of experience with the new language is held constant, there is an advantage to being younger than 8 years old for acquiring the second language to proficiency.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2920538/

Test performance was linearly related to age of arrival up to puberty; after puberty, performance was low but highly variable and unrelated to age of arrival. This age effect was shown not to be an inadvertent result of differences in amount of experience with English, motivation, self-consciousness, or American identification. The effect also appeared on every grammatical structure tested, although the structures varied markedly in the degree to which they were well mastered by later learners. The results support the conclusion that a critical period for language acquisition extends its effects to second language acquisition.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/427544/

Synaptic density increased during infancy, reaching a maximum at age 1--2 years which was about 50% above the adult mean.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

TinkTonk banned, users decided to use Chinese insta instead

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Lmao based.

It would be very funny if the US had to ban RedNote too

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago

In two years when the law catches up, by then it will be too late. 🤞

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago

If this law is upheld and TikTok is banned, they can use it to ban Xiǎohóngshū. But that’ll take years, it’s not like it happens automatically.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago

us is banning tiktok so people are migrating to 小红书 which is a chinese social media. chinese and american netizens are interacting so much, it's incredible

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