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Summary

President Joe Biden highlighted his administration's economic record, citing consistent job growth and a 2.7% inflation rate drop from its 2022 peak.

December's jobs report showed 256,000 new jobs and declining unemployment, signaling steady economic growth.

However, inflation remains above the Federal Reserve's 2% target, and interest rates remain high, impacting homebuyers and businesses.

Public pessimism lingers on affordability as Biden passes a largely strong economy to his successor, Donald Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's what happens when the economic wellbeing of a country is based upon numbers on computers instead of the actual wellbeing of its population. Fuck neoliberalism.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I dont see how we can't actually quantify economic wellbeing, but I dont know of a unit for this.

Like we need something that takes into account wealth disparity. If your GDP goes up 5,000% and all that wealth goes into the pocket of a few people, the unit that measures economic welfare should be very low.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The economy should only be judged by the bottom 1% not the top.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Average savings rate, average credit card debt, number of homeowners, college enrollment rates, average net worth. Lots of measures that the news and politicians ignore.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I suppose I'm happy for the economy. I mean, I'm glad it's doing better than ever, I guess, but I've got my own issues. Sorry if that sounds selfish, but it's just hard for me to get too excited for the economy when I'm stressed about my own situation.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They made a typo they meant the stock market not the economy.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No no no, they added jobs*

*Uber drivers

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That'll surely cancel out the impending fascism.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That’s because the economy is wholly disconnected from the real lives of working Americans. Aside from 401k, job gains could just be shifting around of people from job to job. If you are in the job market, it still feels grim. The cost of groceries, energy, housing, healthcare, schooling still remain high. And that’s what Americans really experience. A reduction in inflation doesn’t mean prices went down, it just means the increases slowed down by 2.7%. And the fact that democrats are completely incapable or unwilling to have this conversation, is why democrats continue to lose enthusiasm every time there’s an incumbent democrat election. Obama was an exception because of how skilled a politician he was and how weak the Republican opposition was at the time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

"What has the economy done for me lately?"

Hard to think of much lately other than give me false hope about my retirement options.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's weird. I could have bought a house in 2014 but I can't afford it now despite making way more money.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

The economy is stronger than ever for Americans that politicians care about.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago

Stronger for whom, exactly?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago

When the media or politicians report on 'the economy' they mean wealthy people's money in investment capital and financial instrument earnings, not wages or savings for the working class.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (15 children)

'Than Ever'

dude was a senator starting at 1972.

he's been an active participant in this

Sure, a massive disaster caused by trump et all fucking things up was recovered from. But that's not really Biden's doing, except in the most ephemeral of senses

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (43 children)

yeah biden's really asking for a lot of credit right now for just being an ordinary republican president. we needed to hold the insurrectionists accountable, first and foremost, and he didn't

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Doesn't matter, when Trump wrecks the economy he will say that he inherited the worst economy ever from Biden.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Someone should build a site that tracks all these metrics and promises from now on.

We're all getting cheaper gas, electricity, and groceries right? RIGHT?!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

"Empty suit makes grandiose empty statement."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

What good is that when we couldn’t sentence the clown coming into office that is going to dismantle whatever gains we might make.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck the economy when garland let trump go. That’s biden’s fault. I will always remember Biden for that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, great, I'm so impressed. I'll quit one of my jobs. Thanks biden.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

stronger than it was post obama but not strongest ever. heck that is just going to be harder and harder to do as time goes by.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Fucking asshole.

Your climate policy is why LA is burning and will continue to burn. Nice carbon extraction economy you've kept there, Joe.

Also your military industrial economy is supporting a genocide. Great economy, Joe.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

He's living in a separate economy 🙄 it's no wonder the Dems lost.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

There's also a part of this that could, if you were naive, be solved with time. My job gave me a solid raise last year, 4.9%. Assuming four years of Harris status quo could get inflation down to ~2.5%, and assuming I can maintain similar raises each year, I'd likely recover from the pandemic within the next four years. Inflation is a necessary evil, but when managed over time, it isn't a big issue. Should work for everyone right, stupid Trumpies just don't understand long-term economics!

Except it ignores that corporations are colluding in duopolies across many industries to steadily raise their prices above inflation to maintain profit growth. It ignores that landlords are treating maximum rent hikes as the expectation rather than the exception. It ignores that climate change is globally impacting our supply lines for food.

Inflation being healthy doesn't mean a damn thing when unchecked capitalism is left rampant. The Biden administration, to their credit, did weakly try to fight corporate interests. However, they did nothing to fight the fully captured Supreme Court, which made Biden's efforts so pitiful they resemble a controlled opposition.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In this theead: A whole lot of people who don't understand that deflation is awful.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's fine, we've got other options. Let's just see how big the disconnect needs to get before we start taking them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Deflation is fine. Plenty of countries have been through deflation and they haven't exploded. Japan is probably the best example.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

BUt tHeY dIdnT kEep dOmInaTiNg Tech anD cArS

Which has nothing at all to do with China, Korea, and Taiwan all rushing to be local and global competitors I'm sure.

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