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Trying out Victoria3 and this is the most bullshit god damned tutorial I have ever played (hexbear.net)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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What the fuck is this?

This is the second night in a row that I find myself searching online to try to figure out how to play the tutorial.

I have never before for any other games had to search up how to actually do the tutorial.

I am flummoxed.

After the first few steps it doesn't tell me anything and I'm just supposed to know how to expel the armed forces from my government?

This very much feels like "draw the rest of the fucking owl"

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First rule of Victoria 3 and really any Paradox game is that there are tons of data and a lot of things happening which can be overwhelming but learning the game is just filtering out what matters from a bunch of things that don't matter. More you play the more you can realize what matters so it's easier to find out what doesn't, that's all. Can't really learn it without first playing it badly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I tend to focus on one system at a time and start the game with a goal. That's usually a viable strategy, and after you play a game with each individual system, you can start combining your knowledge of how they work into more complex world building runs

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago

Sounds about par for the course for Paradox tutorials. Get used to using wikis and google.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Could be worse, back in the day the CK2 tutorial couldn't be completed at all because all the updates and DLCs made it so that the events that were supposed to happen didn't work anymore.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I actually suspect something similar is happening here. I did buy the "deluxe" version or whatever which came bundled with a bunch of DLC. Initially it was giving me guidance, and then it just stopped. Like an event wasn't triggered.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I played Dai Nam, watched other people play Dai Nam, watched hours of Generalist Gaming guides on YouTube, read forums, read the wiki, and did a whole lot of save scumming to figure the game out. It took me months to beat my first game (I think I became 10th or 11th in rank).

Playing Paradox Grand Strategy games take a lot of dedication. It's essentially the equivalent effort of learning your first programming language.

Also be aware that old advice for the game doesn't work anymore since MAPI (market access price impact) was introduced.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

You mean you didnt figure out on your own that you have to appoint a liberal extremist, boost liberal movements, reduce military wages and increase goverment wages, enact progressive reforms and reform the goverment when the armes forces become unpopular? Smh kids these days

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There was a sale a while back that offered the opportunity to try it for free; I got some small distance into the tutorial, saw how complex the game was, and noped out forever. Stellaris is as complex as I'm willing to go.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

same, only mine hard locked while trying to loading right after install. rebooted and did it again. so I didn't even make it that far.

I've heard it's cool, but ultimately seems like my system did me a favor lol.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Street fighter 4 tutorial wants you to do frame perfect combos like less than a dozen steps in

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

By tutorial do you mean trials? Because the trials are meant to be a challenge

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the tutorial is not good. I learned the game by spending hours playing it, followed by watching YouTube tutorials after I had a decent grasp of the basic concepts (to better understand everything) - it's too overwhelming a game to try to understand everything all at once. All that took a whole day of my life though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All I want to know at this point is how to remove a faction from my government.

Although I'm sure once I figure that out it will be replaced by some other intractable problem.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There should be a button labelled "reform government" and when you click it you can move factions into or out of your government by clicking on the arrows that appear next to them. You can move them around freely to see the effects, but once you confirm it some people in the faction that got kicked out will become more radical. If you have elections, you get the option to move around factions for free every time there's an election, but the factions will form parties that have to be added or removed as a group.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

a button labelled "reform government"

rosa-shining

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks, yes I saw & tried that already but I only seem to be able to eject my entire government with all factions all at once, I don't see any option to yeet particular factions:

https://snipboard.io/xwseTk.jpg

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Since you have elections, that means that different factions will join together into parties, and you can't remove individual factions, you can only move the whole party. If the tutorial is asking you to eject the armed forces then it's being stupid, I guess just kick out the whole party and bring them back in when it lets you move on.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't try Imperator: Rome then, it's even worse

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol that game got dropped harder than Civ: BE

That said, the perfidious Albion achievement haunts my dreams

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's actual shame because version 2.0 was a great step forward, though in the current topic of shitty tutorials, it also introduced a lot of mechanics that are not only not explained anywhere in game but it's hard to search for them even online. Also they still didn't fix the diadochii blobs eating or allying everyone around them and blocking over half of map painting possibility in game that is purest map painting game PDX did after EU2.

And even more damn shame about Civ BE, i actually liked this game, definitely came closest to Alpha Centauri than any other attempts (obligatory fuck Proxy Studios their games are shit).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You're not alone, Comrade!

I still have no idea how to play that fucking game.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Step 1: build lumber

Step 2: kill the landowners

Step 3: ???

Step 4: ~~profit~~ win

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Step 1: Build iron

Step 2: build iron

Step 3: build iron

Step 4: your iron deficit is still too large

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, I see what you're problem here is.

You didn't build any coal for steam-powered pumps, you goofball.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That's for later when steam-powered pumps have been researched.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

START NOW! You need those!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

queue a billion lumber buildings, put fast forward and take a nap. repeat step but with iron next.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Someone's never played dying light 2

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

try vic2 on the katerina engine