Of course we have no idea how deadly these guys are with their regular support, but now I'm starting to feel a little more justified that the USA and other cringe Angloid countries would get fucking decked in a real war
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starting to feel a little more justified that the USA and other cringe Angloid countries would get fucking decked in a real war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
It was a simulation of a war between the USA and Iran, carried out by the USA. The US lost quite badly. I'll add stuff in brackets
Red (Iran in the simulation), commanded by retired Marine Corps Lieutenant General Paul K. Van Riper, adopted an asymmetric strategy, in particular, using old methods to evade Blue's (USA) sophisticated electronic surveillance network. Van Riper used motorcycle messengers to transmit orders to front-line troops and World-War-II-style light signals to launch airplanes without radio communications.
Red received an ultimatum from Blue (USA in the simulation), essentially a surrender document, demanding a response within 24 hours. Thus warned of Blue's approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships: one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of Blue's six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected.
They then proceeded to change all the rules of the simulation to make the USA win lol
Among other rules imposed by this script, Red Force (Iran in the simulation) was ordered to turn on their anti-aircraft radar in order for them to be destroyed, and during a combined parachute assault by the 82nd Airborne Division and Marines air assaulting on the then new and still controversial CV-22, Van Riper's forces were ordered not to shoot down any of the approaching aircraft.[5][6] Van Riper also claimed that exercise officials denied him the opportunity to use his own tactics and ideas against Blue Force (USA in the simulation), and that they also ordered Red Force not to use certain weapons systems against Blue Force and even ordered the location of Red Force units to be revealed.[7]
Huh so forget China vaporizing every carrier battle group within range instantly, Iran could also do this, according to the Pentagon...
Did they use this to ask for more money???
I edited my original comment now, so you can read that for what they did, they re ran the simulation and changed the rules so America would win.
And then they asked for more money lol.
The Straight of Hormuz has always been a known death-trap for the American surface fleet. It's narrow enough that it could easily be saturated with anti-shipping missiles, mines, or small boats armed with missiles or suicide payloads. The credible threat of Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz has been an important factor in imperialist planning since '79.
Found an article on this guy before he died, some notes of interest:
he was convinced to go by his Ukrainian-Canadian boss
member of the 22eme, not CANSOFCOM so not actually an "elite" sniper, just a regular Canadian sniper
served on tours with yankees, war-crime likelihood increased drastically
There is something profoundly sad about being convinced by your literal petit-bouge boss to go and die in a pointless war, somehow more so than usual.
Can't say I feel any empathy for the guy, but the gal to tell an employee to go become cannon fodder on a war you cannot possibly win is all sorts of fucked up.
see this is why we need unions. The union would tell your boss to fuck off if he tried to draft you
What kind of loser actually listens to someone telling them that though. Yeah, the boss is a jackass, but he doesn't have the power to send him to Ukraine. He should have been the one to tell his boss to fuck off. Now he can't cause he's dead.
So there was this war called World War I and several million young men signed up to die in the mud in France because of reasons that I still can't comprehend after 35 years of living and readying history.
I didn't get how WW1 even happened until I heard people who previously struck me as completely non political started talking about how we should do a war because of a treaty (there isn't even any treaty)
it feels like a body snatchers horror movie