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Mildly Infuriating

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Is this a 3rd party site? Every barista job on Starbucks' actual site says no experience or education required, so I'm pretty sure what's more infuriating is how god awful pretty much every job site has become.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Indeed has been trash for years, so that tracks. That's why I've only ever used it to figure out who (maybe) has jobs open and then apply directly - they have so much bad information.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

What app is better? I've had bad luck with LinkedIn, Glassdoor and Ziprecruiter?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

None like they said you apply directly on their site. It sucks it seems they all use Work Day as a platform but you can't share logins and data you entered between different applications.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Most of the indeed postings link to the employers site or workday anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

LinkedIn to find the job. Then straight to the company website to apply.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

That's the best part - they're all bad! I'm lucky I usually stick to government and most use governmentjobs.com, which isn't perfect but it's miles better. But when I've been looking for a second job or trying to see what's available in the private sector, I have yet to find a site that isn't trash.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think it depends where you live. In my city, it’s Indeed. LinkedIn only gives me scammy results. But I know ziprecruiter is better in the west coast so I’m sure LinkedIn works for some people too.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah Starbucks literally partnered with the Orion homeless youth shelter in Seattle to train teens to be baristas.

Due to instability during their upbringing, for some of these kids just being able to show up at a certain location at a certain time is a job skill they’re lacking. Yet there’s a little half-Starbucks on site where they can learn that and more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

That’s pretty cool

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah but which site?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It’s not the degree itself, it’s the debt you incurred to get it, and your consequent lack of negotiating power.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Curious to know what their rationale is. You shouldn’t even need a high school diploma to serve overpriced coffee.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

It's not, this isn't from Starbucks. It's just some shitty-arse app that adds this to ~all the listings on it, probably assuming it to be the default.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

A degree signals you have a history of satisfactory performance of arbitrary tasks over a prolonged period. It can be a way to get less bad employees, though not necessarily better ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

From knowing a little about recruiting, if you have a bachelor's degree and apply, they're willing to drop one of their employees who barely finished high school.

It's not worth it to replace an underperformer with someone else who'll likely underperform. But if you can start with someone you deem "better" because they have a slightly more expensive piece of paper, it's more worth the risk.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought conventional wisdom was always that service industry jobs don't really want people with degrees because they're more likely to find something better and jump ship quickly. "Overqualified."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, whoever you relied to doesn’t actually know much about recruiting

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

a bachelor of latte arts? xD

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Get out! :P

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't Starbucks advertise a tuition benefit? Then if you already have a degree, they don't have to worry about that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is next level irony. A coffee shop requiring a gender studies degree.

The CHUDs would have a field day.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Bachelorx degree lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Lol, back when I worked at Starbucks, I joked that one day this exact thing would happen. That the education industrial complex would require a bachelor's degree for all jobs, as it would ensure debt and desperation in the vast majority of people who solely wish to survive.

I also claimed back then that we would all live to see the disastrous effects of climate change. No joke, people back then shook their heads and thought me nuts.

My next prediction: the majority of people who are parents today will wish they never made the decision to have kids in the next 20 years. Good luck everybody.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'd wager that the "not" symbol in front of it means it's not required

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No if I qualified it would say "bachelor's degree" in green. I only have associates so when they want it, it is green and says matching qualifications. If I click on the orange button, it says you may not have all the qualifications.

On the indeed app you can filter by qualifications, so this doesn't come up.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Ooh i see, my bad. This is indeed mildly infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Pretty sure this is a situation where you can just lie with impunity. Is sbucks gonna call up a college and demand records of your fake degree in egyptology?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Background checks include education verification. The service they use would do this. Most employers do this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they automate it. I know Spotify uses an API to verify your enrollment in college. I’d bet they could do the same for degree verification.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Spotify? They need to verify that you went to college before letting you listen to music?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ha! Sorry, I should’ve expanded on that… they have a student tier that’s discounted, and they use an automated service to verify you’re a legit student.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Courent student sounds a lot easier to verify than past

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's saying that it doesn't match the job-seekers profile, ie seeker does not meet requirement

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No that's not how LinkedIn works. If a job lists specific qualification tags like that, it marks those tags with symbols and colors them red or green to indicate if your LinkedIn profile has those qualifications listed. Those can be education requirements, certifications, skills, etc. That tag shows that their profile doesn't have a bachelor's degree listed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This can’t possibly be true, otherwise the college grads that work there do not understand basic English… I order a grande nitro cold brew, add a dash of sweet cream. What do they try to give me? A milk white beverage that is at least half sweet cream. WTF? I want coffee with a splash of cream, not cream with a splash of coffee… Doesn’t anyone like coffee flavored coffee anymore or is it all candy and sugar now? If they really are college grads then thank god they aren’t engineers or doctors.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They are just terrible at paying attention to what you order.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

But… if OP’s assertion is true, how could they possibly obtain a degree in ANYTHING without paying attention? I mean, Mc Donalds drive through minimum wage non educated employees get my order right and these Starbucks “college grads” can’t figure it out? Well, I guess that’s why they work for Starbucks rather than their degree field?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Lol, I posted that comment on the description of my post as a joke because people always say their name is either misspelled or purposely misspelled to make you remember your experience. There are senior year students working at college Starbucks and they are terrible at remembering their customers' orders while my wife with no GED, and almost a decade of food/barista service experience can remember all the college board members' usual orders including repeat student customers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can't be serious. There are plenty of college grads who are stupid as fuck. Source: have worked with many.

Also, if they're fucking up your order that badly it's probably just because they hate their job and don't really give a fuck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Well ya, I agree with you… but my reply was to OP that said Starbucks required college degrees for baristas and I was amazed that was the case. I mean, when I order a coffee with a “splash” of something else - anything else - added to the coffee, then I would imagine that any rational person, degree or not, would think that I wanted less of the additive than the base. BUT that is not my WEEKLY experience at Starbucks. This is from 3 different locations - not one store. Without fail I will have them redo my nitro cold brew so it actually tastes like coffee not cream. WITHOUT FAIL… I understand that you may have a different experience than I have but I can’t speak for you. I am recording my experience and questioning why a degree is needed as as the supposition by OP.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

paying attention to what you order.

Does not mean they don't pay attention to anything. Much like you paying attention to baristas mistakes but only half reading the comment you're replying to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I’m sorry, what? I am actually asking you a sincere question. If I order a grande nitro cold brew, add a splash of sweet cream, what would you think I was ordering? No, really, I am truly asking you what beverage you would then hand me after I pay you. It has been my experience that I will get a cup of cream with a splash of coffee. Is that what you think I should receive from my order? Are my standards too high that I think a trained basista can provide me with my actual order? Should I just take what they give me, regardless of what I wanted, and just pay them because they “tried”?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

“… coffee flavoured coffee…” is a phrase I utter quite often - nice to see someone else uses it to.

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