never, nuclear war will happen first if not climate change induced disasters.
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Damn, what's up with these doomers. Why are you even in a leftist space?
yup expressing despair or cynicism about the revolutionary potential of the imperial core in the context of the imminent threats of nuclear war and climate change means i don't think people deserve healthcare and that i don't think imperialism is bad and that i should just hang out with nazis on reddit or whatever. might as well go get called slurs on 4chan since i disagree on this one thing with the illustrious user The Soviet Reporter, i don't deserve any kind of access to a safer space like this.
i'm just pretty sure widespread intensified climate catastrophe or nuclear war are much more likely to happen within my lifetime than a socialist revolution in the 4th reich hog country. whatever poor souls survive either of those horror scenarios of starvation and desperation will maybe be communist and rebuild afterwards but thats not really a 'revolution'.
If you don't have revolutionary optimism why even be part of a leftist space that promotes revolutionary optimism then? Nobody wants to hear doomerist ideas though. Leave that shit in nihilist subreddits.
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Far sooner than we think. As soon as we start believing that it is possible. It also won’t be all at once, it and it must start somewhere. We have work to do comrades.
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In or about I think it was the summer of 2051 in my future fiction project. In the present day we're seeing in real time the collapse of US hegemony overseas; by the late 2030s internal conflicts within the USA's bourgeoisie about how to save the empire, end up causing a second civil war, triggering mass flight from the USA primarily to Europe and Australasia; the 2040s then see many of those who left the USA during the war returning to work in postwar reconstruction, the USA's relevance abroad completely dead and buried, and the experiences of these returning refugees leaving them thoroughly disillusioned. This is what allows for the emergence of a revolutionary industrial proletariat in the USA, with enough strength to end the bourgeois dictatorship once and for all.
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Nobody can know, there's some likely prerequisites (like the general collapse of an American led world order) but at the end of the day none of us are Nostradamus.
after the empire collapses and after the failure of the fascist regime that takes power after the collapse
2217 at this rate.
Because at that point the USA will likely not exist, and the centuries of reactionary society will hopefully be weakened. 21st century? Seems too far off, but I'd think it would only happen at the collapse of their empire, so maybe this century? idk there would be a massive fascist/liberal reaction against any mass movement for the working class.
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