really ought to just go back to web forums instead of all these clones of popular social media websites. What is even the point of being a reddit? does anyone like reddit enough to care? I don't.
this post was submitted on 23 Nov 2024
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Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.
This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community.
Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.
Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.
Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.
All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).
Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.
To gain matrix verification, all you need to do is navigate to my hexbear userprofile and click the send a secure private message including your hexbear username.
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"Imperialism leaves behind germs of rot which we must clinically detect and uproot from our land but from our minds as well." - Frantz Fanon
Hello users of Hexbear, the intent of this announcement is two-fold the first is that we would like to do another community moderator drive, if you have a community idea or want to help an existing one then please send an application either through hexbear or matrix direct message.
The call for new mods is crucial to our efforts to reduce racism and misogyny on the site, we need users to report and enough mods to be able to quickly act on the reports throughout the day and night. Also, CW or content warnings are essential to the safe browsing of Hexbear.
In addition, comments or posts removed for racist or misogyny will also be accompanied by escalating temporary bans. Upvotes will not be the single reason for a ban, however they may be used in conjunction with other posts/comments/upvotes. Consider this post the warning, however, mods are encouraged to reach out to hexbear users before a long duration ban.
The second is to increase transparency with regard to the site while not repeating the mistakes of previous attempts that were ultimately counterproductive, in part due to wreckers.
Previous attempts to increase site transparency and user participation were targeted by wreckers through increasing the intensity and frequency of struggle session drama.
Using matrix's increased level of user permissions as an anti-wrecking measure while having an increased barrier to sending messages with a clear process to gaining the ability to send messages, we hope to mitigate wrecking attempts.
Leading to the creation of the Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.
This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community. Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.
Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.
Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.
All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).
Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.
To gain matrix verification, all you need to do is navigate to my hexbear userprofile and click the send a secure private message including your hexbear username.
In closing, I want to state that this site would not exist without the volunteer labor of the moderators, who I am deeply grateful for.
I would also like to take this moment to remind people that lemmy direct messages are not encrypted, and finally please use this post to discuss these changes, share community ideas, or express interest in moderation.
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What is your Hexbear username?
Do you have any preferred pronouns?
What are your thoughts on capitalism?
What are your thoughts on imperialism?
What are your thoughts on trans rights?
What are your thoughts on racial justice?
What do think about current and previous protests around the world?
What are your thoughts on Veganism and Animal Liberation?
Do you have any experience with other leftist online communities?
What did those experiences teach you?
What is your approach to moderation, and how do you work with teams?
How do you deal with online drama and people who try to start things for the sake of it?
What current comms would you be interested in moderating?
Do you have any ideas for community engagement?
What is your general time availability? (Time zone, amounts, common browsing times, etc)
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The instructions that follow are for the desktop application and the web application, but the process is similar on all apps:
Press "Create Account"
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If y'all are going to start making upvotes public, then mod actions should also be public, not hidden behind anonymity or "modding accounts". "Radical openness" in one direction isn't radical openness, it's just an excuse to abuse mod powers. If we have a right to know how people upvote, we have a right to see how you all are enforcing or aren't enforcing things.
I thibk this site would be improved if they made me super epic cool god emperor admin which had all tbr powers and also gave me 400 dollars
The second is to increase transparency with regard to the site while not repeating the mistakes of previous attempts that were ultimately counterproductive, in part due to wreckers.
Previous attempts to increase site transparency and user participation were targeted by wreckers through increasing the intensity and frequency of struggle session drama.
Would be really interested to know what exactly these are referring to.
What previous attempts are being alluded to?
Who are the wreckers?
What happened? I missed it.
Stalin did nothing wrong, neither did the mod politburu.
We should have gotten rid of upvotes back when we got rid of downvotes. Both are toxic.
haha I upvoted you (I agree btw, it's just ironic)
The best part is that it will force mods to constantly highlight effort posts, which will be slightly less time consuming than over policing upvotes.
effort posts get way less attention than they should and basically need to be featured regardless
Nobody is policing upvotes.
if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear huh :)
How about just not issuing bans over upvotes.
If an undesirable comment has too many upvotes just let people reply and dunk on it if it's bad, and let people who agree reply back. I don't believe that anyone is being protected by the way you're doing things right now.
Better than having hyper mods looking for reasons to ban people and extrapolating what users mean when they comment/upvote
I just hope the current leadership (who have done a great job over the last few years) put a lot of effort into vetting new mods and admins to retain the proper class-character of the website which safeguards it from reactionary wrecking.
If they find auditing upvotes to be a useful tool towards that end, so be it. At the end of the day mods and admins will have certain powers. Making those powers transparent is an acceptable compromise which I hope can build more trust between the users and mods.
It would be better to let inactive comms close/lock rather than insert mods that aren't properly vetted out of desperation.
Vetting upvotes is a thing because back during the struggle session that led to downvotes being removed it was because a bunch of reactionary shitheads would downvote anything that related to trans issues. Also making the mod log "transparent" would only open the mods up to people getting harassed and we have already had this happen many times so people demanding transparency in the mod log either don't know why it is anonymized or have malicious intent.
...I am 90 percent sure most of our mods started out petite bourgeoisie lol.
I'm a mod and I grew up in a tiny cabin where my sister and I shared bunk beds and my mom slept in the living room. I have done more fucking praxis than 99% of people on this site.
Go fuck yourself.
All my life has been spent doing retail, food service, masonry, carpentry and other manual labor. You sound like you are doing hardcore projection rn.
Currently I live in what used to be a slum motel and is now a slummy apartment building. I don't even have a fucking kitchen.
The upvote problem can be easily solved by having a range of emotions as response to a comment instead of a singular upbear, like what Telegram/Whatsapp have been doing, but we can do without the negative emojis.
Thumbs up = GOOD post!
Heart = Send love
Laughter with tears = that’s funny
Hmm = not sure I agree but thought provoking for sure
Angry face = I’m pissed reading that!
The final score is then tallied by adding up all the different responses. Just a suggestion.
I think the angry face would become a downvote but I like the idea of multiple positive options.
Laughter with tears is also a great downvote option
Not really, it’s an appropriate response for when you read news like “Israeli airstrikes just killed another 100 civilians”, not so much as a disagreement. It’s still technically an “upvote” as it brings the score up.
I like this proposal.
Unfortunately I think it’s unrealistic with the platform we are given
Someday someone will use Hexbear Proposals to do a marriage proposal 
How does that work if none of us meet irl?
Personally, I am in favor of giving people a timeout if they upvote reactionary comments/posts. A one day temp ban and a note saying why seems like a completely reasonable response to me. Also in favor of getting rid of upvotes altogether, though it kinda defeats the purpose of being on a reddit clone to begin with so idk.
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