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I hate big tech controlling social media. I desperately want social media to be federated.

I really love community-driven social media like Reddit. Lemmy feels… too small. I really loved that Reddit let me jump into any niche hobby, and instantly I had a community. Lemmy, you’ll be lucky if that community even exists, and if it does, chances are nobody has posted in ages.

On the other hand, Lemmy is full of political content lately. I’ve basically been doom scrolling everything US election-related, and it’s really starting to take a toll on my mental health.

I know I can filter content. I know I can post and be the change I seek. Yet, it feels like an uphill battle.

Not sure what the point of this is, or if it’s even the right community to vent about this. I just really want to replace Reddit, but I find myself going back more and more (e.g. r/homekit is very active compared to Lemmy version).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 59 minutes ago (2 children)

The thing I like about Lemmy is that they're not banning you over stupid shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 minutes ago

Oh they're still doing that just easier to make a new space after that happens

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

Depends on your instance honestly

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Politics is the one thing we all have in common.

The good old days where everyone watched the same five TV shows and discussed them are over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 minutes ago (1 children)

firefly was mid, there I said it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

Everything Whedon has ever done was mid, and I'm going to be banned for saying that, probably.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Whatever the social media ability to "create" your own algorithm is important. One way being a subscription and sticking to it.

Second being keyword filtering. I use Connect for Android which let's me filter out posts and communities containing keywords.

Same thing I do on reddit with reddit enhancement suite.

It's just the nature social media where anone can sign up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is there a way to 'view all images' like RES has a button for?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Try this, it improves lemmy's web frontend

https://alexandrite.app/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I hate reddit as a platform but I still have to use it every once in a while because people won't move to Lemmy/mbin/piefed.

I honestly don't understand it. People complain that they don't use the fediverse because it's small but somehow they don't realize if they just migrate over then it won't be.

It's aggravating how dumb people can be but hey, that's the world we're living in. I'll continue to use Lemmy and visit reddit if I have to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. It's the same with Mastodon. "There are a bunch of toxic people making me feel unwelcome" can be met with "so I left" or "so we flooded the place and took over, because there were only lile 800 people there"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

I honestly don’t understand it. People complain that they don’t use the fediverse because it’s small but somehow they don’t realize if they just migrate over then it won’t be.

Network effect in full blast

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The Fediverse is virgin territory. The trails aren't blazed for you here; it's your job as an early adopter to make it the way you want it to be. You want a community? Start it and participate in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

Enjoy being the only one posting.

Mass adoption is fundamental to make any social media viable; the fewer users it has, the less useful it is. Reddit has more users than Lemmy. It's that simple. People won't start switching until everybody else switches.

Bluesky is only barely starting to compete with Twitter, and that's after Twitter drastically worsened. Lemmy is a long, long way from competing with Reddit.

To me, it's a matter of time. The structural advantages of the fediverse mean that it's more stable on the long run; what i mean by that is, for-profit Reddit will get worse while Lemmy remains good, leading users to migrate here, so Lemmy will eventually outlive Reddit. And then along the way there will be a few big moments where Reddit really fucks up and a wave of people washes up on Lemmy. This is already happening, i'm pretty sure all of us here made our accounts after the Reddit API changes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Joining an existing community is usually easier than starting a new one.

[email protected] can be a place to find an existing community?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Joining an existing community is usually easier than starting a new one.

There's also the problem of management. Lots of Lemmy comms are abandoned and, while there are some I would like to exist, I just do not visit regularly enough to be responsible for moderating more and more and more communities across the fedi. So I don't create new comms.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I would suggest blocking the communities that post all the content you don't like. After I did that, it's been smooth sailing, and I read the All feed. There's not that many large news and politics communities that you would need to block to get rid of that stuff on your timeline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not the size that matters. Just play with it for a while, maybe you’ll learn to like it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Give it some time, it'll get bigger I promise.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Post the kind of content you’d like to see.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This comment makes me want to both up and downvote it, because while it may be true, I don't think I have the skill to post.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Posting just takes time. Usually you can just take content from Reddit or elsewhere and post it to Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I get it. I basically have to browse on the everything tab to get enough content, and just block the politics communities because I get enough of that from everywhere else in life. I've been using the lack of content to just ween myself off social media though, rather than go back to Reddit. This is the only "social media app" I have installed on my phone unless you count Discord and YouTube

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Seeing all the cats made me realize that we need to all participate to make the community what we want it to be. It’s clear to me there are a lot of lurkers based on the influx of cat pictures. The more we start posting in ANY instance the more visibility there will be for active users.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Post what you want, comment on everything, make your own community, etc etc etc

I see this all the time like some kind of catch-all for complaints about how effectively dead this platform is.

Not everyone is cutout to pioneer any kind of community, let's just assume that OP takes this advice to heart, if their interest/hobby is niche enough, what's even the likelihood of someone else tumbling upon it? Let alone contributing. Maybe this hypothetical other person wants to contribute but they see that it's only one other person posting anything and they figure, "what's the point?" Maybe they don't agree with OP's opinions and would rather find another "community" where their opinions won't be contested even if it doesn't exist. There are a myriad of reasons why, this is going to happen with every channel, fandom, interest group, etc. it's a natural part of the process. The problem lies in the simple fact that there's fucking no one here, there are enough bodies to come and stay and go and continue the cycle until a community is established.

Yes, there are plenty of channels or w/e they're called here, but most of them are effectively islands in a sea of shit you don't care about (or bots.) They're not managed, and there's nothing going on in them. Why is it up to you the user to stop what you're doing and make something out of nothing? When there are already communities that do exist on other platforms, even if said platforms are trash like Reddit or Xitter are. The majority of users in large communities are lurkers, they might not actively contribute, but they do share content with their own friends or interest groups and that is what's more likely to bring people in, those people might be people that do end up contributing, or they might be more lurkers. But it feeds into the growth of the community either way.

Most of Lemmy doesn't have any of that though, because there's no one here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Community building involves more than just posting. It's "If you post it, post about it everywhere else, and talk about it with everybody who will listen". And then dealing with months if silence while you keep posting things that inspire others to join in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Not everyone is cutout to pioneer any kind of community, let’s just assume that OP takes this advice to heart, if their interest/hobby is niche enough, what’s even the likelihood of someone else tumbling upon it?

The general advice is to go to more and more generic communities until you meet enough people to discuss the topics.

Originally, Reddit had no subreddits, there was only one single space where everybody would post.

Reducing the number of communities and merge some of them would definitely be useful. For people interested on that topic, there is [email protected]

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