Man... That AI is going to be so fucked up when it gains sentience
this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2024
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Jesus Christ. If someone ever got their hands on this model they could use it to generate new material. The grossest possible AI model to date
No. This is an inference model, not a generative model. You generally cannot train a model for both, unless you do it on purpose, and they certainly did not (especially since inference models are way easier to train than generative models).
A generative model uses the classifier as part of its training. If you generate a picture of pure random noise, then iteratively pick random noise that the classifier says "looks" more like csam, then you can effectively generate images that the classifier says it's 100% certain is csam. Whether or not that looks anything like what a human would consider to be csam depends on other factors but it remains a possibility.
You are describing the way deepdream works, not the way modern Diffusion models work. It's the difference between psychedelic dog faces and a highly adherent generative image of a German Sheppard.
I can't imagine you're going to get anything out of this model that actually looks like CSAM, unless there's some sort of breakthrough in using these models for previously unrealized generative purposes.
I thought being able to do that was already a thing. This is designed to do the opposite.
I know, I know.. bad actors and such.
me
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Thorn, the company backed by Ashton Kutcher and which tried to get its way to monitor all messages in the EU via Chat Control. No thanks.
Just remember folks. Kutcher is a slimeball too.
The guy went from a D list star and hanging out with the likes of Danny Masterson and going to Diddy’s infamous parties - to suddenly overnight courting the US government and being the face of ‘helping’ children everywhere.
Yeah right…..
I’d be wary of calling him guilty by association. Maybe when he realized who he was really hanging out with he was so horrified and disgusted that he just had to get involved and do something to fight back?
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People can grow and change. Not saying he did or didn’t. Just saying that people aren’t a monolith. It’s plausible he just grew and his views changed / evolved.
That being said, it’s highly convenient where he’s positioned himself these days…
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Not a single peep about false positives.
I'm sure it won't be abused though. And if anyone does complain, just get their electronics seized and checked, because they must be hiding something!
It could also, of course, make mistakes, but Kevin Guo, Hive's CEO, told Ars that extensive testing was conducted to reduce false positives or negatives substantially. While he wouldn't share stats, he said that platforms would not be interested in a tool where "99 out of a hundred things the tool is flagging aren't correct."
I take this to mean it is at least 1% accurate lol.
Reminds me of the A cup breasts porn ban in Australia a few years ago, because only pedos would watch that
This sort of rhetoric really bothers me. Especially when you consider that there are real adult women with disorders that make them appear prepubescent. Whether that's appropriate for pornography is a different conversation, but the idea that anyone interested in them is a pedophile is really disgusting. That is a real, human, adult woman and some people say anyone who wants to live them is a monster. Just imagine someone telling you that anyone who wants to love you is a monster and that they're actually protecting you.
There was a a porn studio that was prosecuted for creating CSAM. Brazil i belive. Prosecutors claimed that the petite, A-cup woman was clearly underaged. Their star witness was a doctor who testified that such underdeveloped breasts and hips clearly meant she was still going through puberty and couldn't possible be 18 or older. The porn star showed up to testify that she was in fact over 18 when they shot the film and included all her identification including her birth certificate and passport. She also said something to the effect of women come in all shapes and sizes and a doctor should know better.
I can't find an article. All I'm getting is GOP trump pedo nominees and brazil laws on porn.
I'm just glad they protected her
Pretty sure the adult star was lil Lupe. She was everywhere at the time because she did, indeed, look underage.
Awe man, I love all titties. Variety is the spice of life.
Not to mention the self image impact such things would have on women with smaller breasts, who (as I understand it) generally already struggle with poor self image due to breast size.
Clearly the state gives zero fucks about these women, or anyone else or even "the children"
Catholic Church is still around for a reason
Typically the state only cares about things they perceive as children.
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I am a bit confused how it is legal for them to have the training data here?
Like is there anything a corpo can't do?
Like why can't subway Jared and Catholic church "train the AI"
Only half way joking, what's the catch here?
I don't think you even need the actual stuff to train a neural network to recognize it. For example, if I wanted to train a neural network to recognize pictures of lions, but I didn't have any actual pictures of lions, I could use pictures of lion-shaped things, lion-colored things and locations where lions might appear. If a picture is hitting all three of those, it's very likely to be a lion. Very likely is all a neural network can do, so it's good enough for my purposes.
There are laws around it. Law enforcement doesn't just delete any digital CSAM they seize.
Known CSAM is archived and analyzed rather than destroyed, and used to recognize additional instances of the same files in the wild. Wherever file scanning is possible.
Institutions and corporation can request licenses to access the database, or just the metadata that allows software to tell if a given file might be a copy of known CSAM.
This is the first time an attempt is being made at using the database to create software able to recognize CSAM that isn't already known.
I'm personally quite sceptical of the merit. It may well be useful for scanning the public internet, but I'm guessing the plan is to push for it to be somehow implemented for private communication, no matter how badly that compromises the integrity of encryption.
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It's the earliest AI technology striving to expose unreported CSAM at scale.
horde-safety has been out for a year now. Just saying... It's not a trained AI model in this way, but it's still using Neural Networks (i.e. "AI Technology")
How did you figure out it had issues with broccoli?. Were you checking your vegetable gallery for CSAM?
haha, nah people reported some unexpected censors, and we investigated what part of their prompt might be causing it.
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