Hitler was nothing without the NSDAP and the fascist movement.
There were 915,000 Germans in the Waffen-SS.
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Pretty sure this election proves it's way more than one in five.
He did great things.
The problem is that he only did them for people he liked. And he did TERRIBLE things to the people he didn't like.
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What a terrible question. He was an awful person but obviously nobody is all bad.
He only has one redeeming quality: killing Hitler.
but also he killed the guy who killed hitler
Yeah, but that can't possibly be true - which we ofc all know it can't be, yet what you said is a very standard thing to say.
(Even "killing Hitler" was at that point of no good consequence - but "he" (?) would have been a hero if he killed Hitler at least one year sooner ... but also max about 22 years earlier ... so he completely missed the window on that "one redeeming quality" as well ... so that whole thing is just a nonsense saying.)
There is literally nothing I can think of that would make him good in any isolated field. For a long time people held the believe that he was pro environment and animal rights. But he also killed his own dog. People also say that he had a special aura around him. That he was very charming. But those people were likely like trump supporters today. My great grandmother actually got to see him before she fled Germany. She said that there was nothing particularly interesting about him except for the way he speaks maybe.
The question is still to vague. Obviously all of his politics were the worst. But the way it's phrased, you'd kinda have to agree he wasn't ALL bad if, for example, he made a pretty tasty pasta sauce. Like. Not that it'd be relevant. It's the vagueness of the question that I'm critiquing. Maybe I'm just having an autism moment.
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He was vegetarian (loaded topic, I know but probably gets more support than 20%) and loved dogs, for example.
He wasn't, it's well documented he wasn't vegetarian this was spread as anti vegetarian propegand.
Oh yeah? Care to share some links for that claim? Since Wikipedia has a whole article about Hitler being vegetarian. Apparently, he wasn't super strict about it but he identified as one and the article also quotes newspaper articles of the time. I'd assume "anti-vegetarian propaganda" is a more modern thing.
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Depends on how pedantic one wants to be.
No it doesn’t.
Well I can't think of any good qualities that actually mattered.
That’s the point. He was objectively all bad.
Even without or beyond judging the person, it's the actions, results, and consequences of those actions too.
Which is even more complex, but important for understanding the context.
But it's def really important to avoid black & white (wrongful) memefication, bcs suddenly the memetic value (the "idea" that the image of Hitler represents to masses on average) is vastly corrupted & serves other purposes.
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Ok, I get it, but we really should avoid looking at things/people like Adolfy as black or white - that just makes it a meme & loses actual historical/lecture value.
With Hitler being a one-dimensional idea/meme/brand instead of a human (supported by humans with rational human causes) I'm afraid we are doomed to repeat the same cycle of mistakes.
What I'm saying is that instead of education we have strong propaganda (after a specific date) that taught us this Hitler brand was just & only bad, like it was a spontaneous event. Instead of a full person & a nation (again full of actual people) with voting rights in irl situations.
And propaganda isn't free, it's financially fueled, which means it wants something in return.
Monsters are humans. We need to remember that, despite what we are preached.
1 in 5 cant see that far behind them.
Well now he's going to be president.
After last night, you don't have to prove we're dumb bastards to me.
I mean he did kill Hitler, that's got to count for something.
It has just happened. The liberty aura surrounding America has been broken.
He did promise the masses a family land and a job. The same thing that every politician ever has promised.
That's better than expected. Or is it that low because the rest thinks he was actually great?
Yikes. Very troubling.
I mean he was right about some things. Course extremely few people are wrong about those things but every now and then simple arithmetic trips people up
One in five Americans is the monster...mean it's more than that I guess but ugh
When you look into Hitler with a kind of Devil's Advocate-ish no pre-bias approach, certainly some good ideas. Was for workers, abortion, prostitution, national healthcare, good minimum wages, women's rights,... But there's just some... just a few... a handful, if you will, that were maybe...maaaybe what could be considered psychopathic monstrously batshit insane ideas.
But, hey, plenty of people love the Christian god, and Hitler is somewhere between that guy and a Powerpuff girl, so no surprises for me.
The power of charisma over those apathetic to self-thinking.
Edit: Apparently we have a lot of God-fearing neo-Nazis here! Sorry, it was a joke, I'll just leave. No need to try track me down.
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