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Excerp from william Hinton's "fanshen"

Unlimited Genocide on the first world

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[–] 72 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Honestly an important example for communism being anti-religious. This idea gets thrown around a lot as if it means communists will oppress you for being a Christian or something, but they don't mention that there were fucking geomancers and mud idolatry cults taking people's income to throw in the river to get a blessing and not die from drinking dirty water. This is still a huge issue all around the world, like in India with the Brahmin mafia needing to get cut in on everything that happens in society to just burn some incense and say some words or else everyone will be punished by this god or that god, or the so-called Hyenas in Malawi who are hired to sleep with kids after their first menstruation in order to "cleanse" them, or the Catholic church for, well everything they've done. It makes sense that communists would fight these things, and they are religious things, but it doesn't have to mean that a communist must be anti-religious to fight specific examples of abuse from metaphysical thinking that they see around them.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I have noticed lots of examples of people using religion to "justify" actions that are right at home with the playbook of a Snake Oil Salesman.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    yeah it is quite literally the oldest trick in the book and the origination of class society

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'd argue that animal husbandry was the start, but that's definitely the origin of the First Estate

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    yeah maybe so, I feel like people were practicing animal husbandry under primitive communism though right? I would assume the first instance of having a class divide socially would have required a religious concept to justify it

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    That's not true. Animal husbandry was not meaningfully present in primitive communism until it became the end of it. Agrarian/pastoral society is the foundation of most class society throughout the world, and the traditional Marxist account is that in Europe it produced patriarchy because "estates" of a sort are now in existence and systems wherein women were obliged to only have sex with one man in order to be sure of whose the child was became important for inheritance, and maybe more importantly fields and pastures made having more workers a much more economically valuable thing than in a hunter/gatherer situation, which means that you want more reproduction, which resulted in women being forced to reproduce more and even women being kidnapped from other tribes in order to have more people producing future workers, so now women are a brutally-oppressed underclass ruled by the patriarchs.

    Religion existed in primitive communism and throughout human history thereafter and was never the origination of a class divide even if it would go on to be useful for perpetuating class relations (as all ideology is used to perpetuate class relations). We should not be so over-zealously anti-religious that we fall into idealist explanations that blame religion when one of the most basic pitches of this community is that religiosity interferes with materialist analysis. Class divides originate from material conditions, religion supportive of class divides comes after, as the ruling ideology developed by the new ruling class.

    Edit: Engels covers a version of this in Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, and here's an audiobook that I quickly found, but you can probably find others if you don't like this one.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    communists wouldnt have to be anti-religious if religions didnt immediately start foaming at the mouth and joining the forces of reaction whenever the status quo is even slightly threatened

    hey fuckers, why didnt yall join the movement? what's up with that?

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    geordi-no Killing God with the power of friendship

    geordi-yes Bringing God to trial and sentencing him to death with the power of friendship

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago

    That monkey bastard when the villagers took his ass to court: horror

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago

    the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

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  • [+] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    MURDERTHEGODSANDTOPPLETHEIRTHRONES IA! IA!

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  • They also constructed, in entire country, comprehensive network of magical amulets and wards against the return of the god of dysentery, though godless commies call those "plumbing" and "healthcare".

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    free people from bondage to... astrology

    Wow, didn't realize the Chinese Communist Party hated women!

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    hell yeah, attack and dethrone god

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  • Today while engaging in class struggle I summoned Ch'i-t'ien to try and weaken him so our struggle session would work better. He is so fucking powerful. I'm not at a power level to do this alone. I barely escaped with my life and I'm dialectically injured to a great amount, but I think I'll make it. I can't imagine what he would do to a new, unsuspecting maoist. I'm scared that I will have to face him again soon if I ever want to continue astral projecting. I'm currently reading the little red book and drawing marxist energy from my copy of Capital to try and heal as quickly as possible. Please be safe everyone. Ch'i-t'ien is much stronger than I first imagined and we will have to do this together if we want to slay a god.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Geomancy is such a powerful subclass with excellent AoE crowd control abilities

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