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from @[email protected]:

For Agitprop purposes, I’m asking comrades to help aggregate any and all effortpost responses, critiques, or general thoughts that you have seen or written pertaining to yesterday’s U.S. election that you think have standalone value for discussion either online or IRL.

I made a post for that purpose here, and ideally it can be used not only for general discussion, but as a reference for well thought out responses in discussions about the election to save all of us some brainpower.

No shitposts please, as we’d like to highlight some comrades’ actual effort in constructing responses or analysis, but humor is 100% welcome to help make your point!

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Twitter trending: "#DoNotConcedeKamala"

Lol lmao, blue maga

[–] [email protected] 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Kamala should launch a coup imo and kill Biden.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

once she's president it's retroactively legal

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 17 hours ago

The funniest part is that Trump is gonna end up getting roughly the same number of votes he got last time. Dems just had 10-15 million people not show up. Wonder why...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Has Kamala still not said anything??

[–] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

she'll be delivering remarks at 4 pm eastern time, so about 50 minutes from now

[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago

Imagining some intern backstage giving her a cigarette with cocaine in it like John Goodman in Flight

[–] [email protected] 24 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Holy smokes they're gonna win the house too

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I've had a pretty bad day so I decided to tune into the Majority Report live show just now for some schadenfraude, and they're talking to liberal caller who sounds of the verge of tears, who keeps asking how do we know Trump even won democratically, how will we ever know when Democrats are gracious losers and too respectful to check? and then goes on to insist that while he agrees that "we need to get organised" it's important to remember that it "doesn't have to mean joining an organisation" and can just be personal little things.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

and then goes on to insist that while he agrees that "we need to get organised" it's important to remember that it "doesn't have to mean joining an organisation" and can just be personal little things.

I'm starting a union consisting of just myself, and will start "collective" bargaining within weeks

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm imagining a guy starting a union of himself to collectively bargain with his wife for more sex and less nagging.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

No Ma'am Local 420

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

What if we started a union , but it was just me and two friends who also needed to vent in a safe space offline where they can't be cancelled by tankies and we served mimosas and eggs benedict?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This really is a distillation of what zero materialism does. There's been about four more calls now and they're all a version of:

  • This country is just racist, there's nothing we can do.
  • People are stupid and illiterate and it's their fault.
  • This must be a fix and this is unprecedented (followed by being annoyed when hosts point out 2000/2004, and that this one is almost certainly legit)
  • Why are people so attracted to this fascist strongman image of Trump? (that we created, and it's definitely nothing else)

The lib host is now crying enough that she cannot close the show or keep taking calls.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago

This must be a fix and this is unprecedented

Blueanon is real, and it's going to get worse and more annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

What depresses me a bit right now is the fact that my feed on social media is full of posts from libs talking about resistance, organizing, hope. These are the same people that have been at brunch for four years straight, despite the genocide in Palestine.

And now I am painfully aware that all this is just posturing from them.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 17 hours ago

For Agitprop purposes, I’m asking comrades to help aggregate any and all effortpost responses, critiques, or general thoughts that you have seen or written pertaining to yesterday’s U.S. election that you think have standalone value for discussion either online or IRL.

I made a post for that purpose here, and ideally it can be used not only for general discussion, but as a reference for well thought out responses in discussions about the election to save all of us some brainpower.

No shitposts please, as we’d like to highlight some comrades’ actual effort in constructing responses or analysis, but humor is 100% welcome to help make your point!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

I can absolutely imagine Harris running again in 2028 and probably getting the nomination

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, the nomination is going to Gruesome Newsome.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

assuming the imperial decline continues apace, he'll probably win too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

not a fucking chance lol

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

I know people are kind of enjoying schadenfreude here, but it is alarming how many liberals are just going mask off in their tantrum against ethnic minorities in the US, and just brazenly expressing not only depraved indifference to Palestine/Gaza but active contempt and hatred of them and their sympathizers which liberals blame for losing the election. Their coping mechanisms are devolving into *maybe we shouldn't protect trans people, immigrants, BIPOC. PEP is also clearly the right choice."

I felt like our secret shared hope was that liberals would somehow rediscover their affection for organizing, protesting, canvassing for causes, but AOC encapsulated it in her video about #resistance being ceremonial and performative bullshit.

Life is going to get worse, and I'd be fooling myself to declare that the difference between a Harris defeat from a victory is the normalization of reactionary politics. It just stings differently because in 2016 there was a vague hope, given Sanders' campaign and reinvigoration of socialism/leftism, that life did not have to be that way.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's truly baffling that people could look historically at US elections and unequivocally say "When people are concerned about the economy, the incumbent party doesn't do well...........................................but this election it'll be different!" top-cop

The fact that the campaign didn't distance themselves from Biden will truly be studied for generations (who am I kidding, it probably won't)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 18 hours ago

Just saw a dipshit talking head on msnbc claim incredulously that a tiktok video saying KKKamala locked up parents of truant kids was a "deepfake" lmao

Even npr admitted it 4 fuckin years ago

[–] [email protected] 39 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The California ballot measure to ban prison slavery lost lmao fuck this piece of shit country

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 18 hours ago

As far as I can tell the only states he won without a majority are Michigan and Wisconsin. But just barely and only because Democrats forced RFK to stay on the ballot in those states lmao.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

I'm gonna be honest, I think this was all down to inflation and Biden's unpopularity and any democrat running nationally in this environment was just fucked no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Harris and the rest of the Democrats were and are way too dismissive of real economic issues; there's examples in this very thread of them still doing the whole "Ignore the voters: the economy is actually the best it's ever been, and here's why: (1/942)" charade.

I'm genuinely unsure if this incompetence is on purpose or on accident - do they actually believe that the average American is doing really well because they're just in delusional bubbles of rich friends, or are they knowingly trying to sell a false image to try and convince people in lieu of - gasp - doing something that doesn't benefit the top 0.01% for the first time in ~250 years? Regardless, I think that a Democrat who ran on solving genuine economic issues and disconnected from Biden's terrible management could have won. But such a figure would never have been tolerated in the election. In fact, I think they'd be Corbyn'd and they'd just tank their own campaign to ensure that the Republicans win, so in that sense, Bernie also would not have won in this environment.

So in that sense, saying "any democrat running nationally in this environment was just fucked no matter what" is correct, but not on their own merits, but because somebody who could win would not be allowed to win. The Venn diagram is two separated circles.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The Democrats have nobody to blame but themselves. You cannot beat Trump by running as a centrist and campaigning with Liz Cheney. You give people nothing. You promise healthcare reform and student debt relief and then don't do shit.

There's a reason Trump's "drain the swamp" lies work so well. People know both parties are controlled by their corporate owners, and they're sick of it. Trumpism has it's roots in disaffected working class people, they've just been convinced minorities are to blame for the faults of capitalism.

When material conditions worsen, people are more likely to embrace fascism, especially when there's no alternative but the status quo. If they had let Bernie run in 2016, he would've beat Trump then. But no, the Dems love the status quo, they love their corporate owners, and most of all they love genocide. End the Demokkkrat party.

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