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My soul yearns for 4am-12pm sleep schedule.

Night owls are also an oppressive class. Drag lives somewhere with thin walls and can't get to sleep until the night owls are ready too. The parties are the worst.

Oh no, imaging Normie's coming in at you at 5 AM with u making a sandwich

Studies show that losing weight is good for your health. What happens if you give that advice to someone who's underweight?

Different people have different needs and the studies on sleeping haven't yet caught up to that level of science.

Any studies concluding a corelation between being awake at night and poor health are likely measuring many confounding factors. There's no way to isolate that variable. Certain groups are more likely to stay up into the night, which could equally be the cause. It also requires, as the post implies, giving up certain activities. Those activities may promote good health in some way.

Any actual medical condition caused by nighttime activity could be managed, like vitamin D deficiency. The societal factors can't be, although if it was more common and acceptable that could level out some of the variables.

No worries, I take Vitamin D pills. I have surpassed my sun-addicted brethren.

I commented on someone else saying this, but I'll say it here also. There's no way to isolate the variable of a noctural lifestyle. There are many confounding factors that can't be controlled. Is it that being awake at night that isn't healthy or are people who feel like being awake at night already typically less healthy? I'd bet on the latter.

We can take vitamin D supplements, so that isn't the issue. However, a lot about your lifestyle must change with this, as you say. Is this a cause? Are nocturnal favoring people associated with mental health issues? Do nocturnal people eat less healthy? (Fewer options to healthy eating open?)

Studies involving humans are flawed. We can't control every factor of someone's life, so usually it's self reported and also not forcing lifestyle changes on people —at least not for long term studies. They're still useful, but people often look at studies that say "nocturnal lifestyle associated with worse long-term health outcomes" and read "nocturnal lifestyle causes worse long-term health outcomes" which is a very different thing.

My mother, for example, would call at 2pm and ask what I was doing.. She never could understand that I was asleep.

This problem is easily solved by following the golden rule

I would do 12 x 12 nights on a mine. Saw some cool shit. Light pillars, and northern lights like you wouldn't believe. A few lynx.

Wouldn't do it again unless you at least tripled my salary. Nightshift gut is awful. feeling like you've got a sandbox in your eyes also sucks. Nothing like changing a tire on a pickup in -50C with no one around... Two nights in a row to support day shift.

Work more night shifts. Date more goths.

When I worked nights, twice a week I'd stay up 36 consecutive hours to realign my schedule with my partner's and then back to my job's.

I miss working nights and I miss being young.

I find I'm the most productive at 3am. It's a real shame that I'm forced to sleep through it.

It’s a big problem in apartment complexes where one line is CGNAT’d to every apartment. In practice that means 20 people share the same line that a house would have normally, and in the evenings every apartment streaming or gaming can make the speeds shit.

Sucks ass but in the US you can’t do shit because the speeds you pay for are “up to” and if they’re not “up to” that the best you can do is kick rocks.

This also usually coincides with you being able to only get one internet service provider at that apartment, despite that being illegal now. So you’re locked in to shit nighttime service with slow downloads and giga latency

No, in some areas it is still very much real. I've had several friends who needed to dip around 17:00 or 18:00 because the latency of the online games we played got too variable. This is in Western countries.

The internet is weird. You'd be surprised at some of the issues that still happen today.

I once had an issue where I couldn't log into the servers of an MMO, despite my internet being perfectly fine. After much trial and error, I figured out that the reason I couldn't log in was because while I played on East Coast servers, all login authentification was done through servers at the companies HQ on the West Coast, and there was a local outage of a DNS server or something out in New York somewhere, which meant that I couldn't reach the login servers. Literally nothing I could do because a line was down several states away and I therefore couldn't play the game.