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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Every is talking about how the headrest it's made this way for crash safety when it's blatantly untrue.

The headrest is designed to protect the heads and neck of the average man, not woman. Decades of crash test dummies have all been modeled on the average height and weight of the male body. This is why women are 47% likelier to sustain a serious injury in a crash.

Think of the where the headrest is in the optimal position to protect the driver, and then move that a few inches lower. Adjustable headrest often doesn't even go low enough to accommodate for many women. There is an actual cutoff height where you are just screwed and expected to die more. Not to mention the user error of forgetting to adjust the headrest from the factory setting of accommodating to the average male height.

This is why so many people are curled up like a shrimp. They are either: short, a woman, or the statistically deadliest of all, both.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 57 minutes ago

You're talking about the height of the headrest, not how far forward they go for some reason

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Oh it's 'blatantly' true that the headrest are for safety. The problem is engineers can't design a perfect one size fits all. So things are designed around averages. It's the best they can do.

If you fall outside of those averages at either end well, there is going to be more risk. As a male who is above average height, automotive headrests add more risk for me just as they do for a smaller woman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 27 minutes ago

But they can make a headrests that do that. My car's headrests can tilt forward or back depending on your preference. And it was made in the 2010's, so it's not like this is a super old, or new, development.
Making them adjustable makes the most sense as it allows people to adjust it to what they need, rather than just designing for the average person. The seats themselves are adjustable; you can slide them forward and back, up and down, some even tilt them forward or back. The headrests should be no different.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

A head rest is designed to stop you getting whiplash. How does someone being shorter, make it more dangerous?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

While I definitely think there's truth in what you say, I don't think it's the real reason. The posture car seats try to put you in is just not good sometimes. If the seat itself lets you sit up straight, the headrest juts out, or the headrest is okay but the seat is curved into a bowl. It's comfy for lazy sitting, which is what most people will want to settle into, but if you try to be mindful of your posture, you're doing it without real support from your seat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

They really aren't primarily head rests, so comfort isn't the priority and my car's manual doesnt call them that.They're first and foremost head support for accidents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Well there is that while I have also never seen a headrest that goes high enough for me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because head rests are not meant to be pillows. They're meant to cushion your head in a wreck and prevent injury from whiplash. I don't know the specifics but that's the gist. They're for safety, not comfort.

Though the one in the image looks particularly wrong lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

It's not meant to be a pillow but it also shouldn't force your head forward at an unnatural angle just because you have decent posture. Car headrests are designed for hunchbacks.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Car driver problems lmao. Just ride a dragon to work instead.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago

No way, I'm still picking scales out of my crack from the last time I gave that a shot

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Often my hair is in a ponytail and it does make it impossible to drive comfortably. Like I have to leave my hair down and windows up to drive comfortably.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Hmm.. Maybe we need a split headrest. Kids having something fun to pull on is another consideration.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My wife's RAV4 is like this. Long drives are torture after a few hours. My neck, shoulders, and back end up in knots.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago

I took my head rest out on my rav.

I might have died when my head snapped off, but at least my back and neck stopped killing me for the five years I drove it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Many people dont realize you can pull them forward and they then pop back. Yours may have been pulled partially forward.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Everyone should take this moment to consider correct posture.

One of the best pieces of advice I ever received was to change the angle of my rear-view mirror to remind myself to sit straight.

In essence, try to force the lowest part of your neck to touch the heighest point on the headrest.

Then notice how you cannot see out of your rear view mirror. Adjust it from this position, and get used to it.

It's gonna be weird for a while, but I assure you, this is what is best for your spine. I'll take your gratitude in advance, for when you're 80 and not folded over.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Mine forces bad posture. Sitting with an erect spine means my head is tilted steeply forward.

I have to lean the seat back until I'm not resting my back against the seat so there's less pressure in my neck. That means I'm not able to rest my upper back at all.

What i wouldn't give for 1cm of adjustment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's not cheap but you can replace your seat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Lol no. Im just going to move so i can drive less.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Lowest part of neck to higheat part of the headrest? Sounds like the before times when peoples necks snapped in acidents because nothing stopped their head shooting backward

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, the headrests in cars are angled forward because it's the safest in the event of a crash. Unfortunately, that means that the headrests are generally uncomfortable. The back of the head should be resting on the headrest; the neck should NOT be resting on the headrest unless you want to risk permanent injury or death.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Best advice I ever received posture wise was to pretend my nipples were Lazer guns and try to shoot people in the face. I like to say pewpew in my head

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Ass down cock up tits out shoulders back

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[–] [email protected] 188 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Agree.

Also people seem to think the head rests are there for you to constantly be resting your head on but they are head restraints.. They're there so you don't break your neck if you get in an accident - not to be comfy on a long drive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

then why do some of them go so far forward? I'd love to rest my upper back against the seat every now and then, but that requires me to move my head forward like in the OP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago

Just because big automobile is out to get you.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Take them all the way out, and flirt it around.

Or see if it moves

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Okay so I think some people might need a course on why headrests are designed this ungodly way...

during a rear-end collision or sudden braking as the vehicle makes a sharp forward-backward movement. Without the angled headrests, passengers may suffer spine misalignment of spine-related injuries due to sudden movements. The headrests also keep the spine in position with its “forward-looking” design. This stops the pain and other symptoms associated with a misaligned spine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

How does that help when the top of the headrest jabs into your neck? Doesn't that just make a nice fulcrum to snap your neck on?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So.....I should turn my headrest back around, huh?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago
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