Must be nice to turn your brain off anytime team blue is in charge.
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Trump is the real harm reduction candidate, libs only put up any resistance when he's in charge despite his policy not meaningfully differing from Biden's or Harris's.
Nah, I think that that goes too far. I voted Green and support everyone else's decision to do the same but even when Trump was president and the "resistance" was always largely performative.
"I do not want to do four more years of resistance nonsense..."
"I do not want to do four more years of my job..."
Genocide for the last year. Abortion lost and nothing but hand wringing like the last 50 years. Trans rights lost, criminalized in many states - Dems just just look the other way. Ukriane war ever eding a nuclear war.
Has she been long under a rock or in a a bubble?
She’s playing the long game. Have to humiliate yourself for the greater good before you have reached the top and finally reveal your power level.
#HistoryWillAbsolveAOC
Courts also saying they're okay with hearing cases without any standing so they can be legislating from the bench, and that neither branch can impose rules on them.
Guess it's easier to ignore that when know it doesn't effect you :/
Why bother fighting hard fights when she can just be cozy under a dem admin and enjoy her treats
Now we just get to wake up to previously unthinkable innovations in war crimes
Unlike the resistance years where you'd wake up to a new funny from Donald and resistancely meme on it for several days past its expiration date
Now we just get to wake up to previously unthinkable innovations in war crimes
Fucking yes, this is the most baffling part. Every day I'm greeted by videos of limbless children and women being executed in the streets under Democratic fucking rule, but its not something that offends them because Trump isn't doing it.
to answer the thread title: yeah kinda probably
Power at the national level needs replacements occasionally, but there's strong evidence AOC was always astroturfed and was always positioned as a sheepdog - it sucks but it's probably time to revise your understanding of her career to include a removal of any sincerity in her image at any point. It was always a work.
But sometimes one or two oddballs actually end up there, but I really think in general, these folks get bent over and read in like every state asset does. Bill Hicks had a joke that the CIA shows you a different angle of the kennedy assassination - I think it more likely the second you fuck up you are put in a position to be blackmailed - that Diddy/Epstein pedo shit surely goes deeper than a couple of pimps getting one over on some pop culture celebrities - we know better than that - and while I'm not saying everyone in congress is a nonce, i am saying they either did work that got them the nod to take the position from powerful people, or they have blackmail. I don't think you stay in the club otherwise.
On top of that it seems like the jan 6. thing really messed with her.
"Waking up and there's some shit going on" yeah that's the news
What a lovely insight to the liberal mind.
Things don't happen under Dem rule. Anything that does happen, is simply the way the world works, and you are naive to think we can just pick up a magic wand to fix the thing. But not under Republican rule. Those things happen and must be stopped, by voting blue in 2/4 years, and maybe doing like a silent candlelight vigil, as long as it isn't too loud and doesn't cause a ruckus.
I’m sure it’s been said already 30 times in this thread but saying this while the worst extermination event in a century is not only happening but actively funded by our government is actually insane
Palestinians don’t have to remember every time they wake up. It’s been happening every day through their entire lives. They stopped remembering when they can no longer wake up.
democraps lack object permanence
resistance nonsense
fuck you
Nobody made you run for Congress. If you don't want to do your job, it's OK to quit.
Reminds me of that story about an old lady telling Marcus Aurelius about her problems, and when the emperor said he didn't want to hear about her bullshit she replied: Then dont be emperor.
I do wonder what it's like to wake up with some atrocity that's impossible to ignore. I can't imagine what that's like, it must be so hard to resist against tyranny and oppression, right? Good thing it's a thing of the past.
I do wonder what did her in.
Was it the fear of losing her seat? Ambitions of power in the party past merely holding a seat?
Money?
Fear of having an 'accident' if she kept it up?
Did she realize she enjoyed being a soulless ghoul?
Or was it all just a facade from the start?
I do not know, but what I do know is this:
A few seem to think US Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez worked her way through college as a bartender. That is not the case. She went to college on a John F. Lopez Fellowship, because she was a highly competitive candidate. And she got regular federal student aid and loans. She has a student loan debt of somewhere between $15,000 and $50,000 from going to Boston University. While at BU she was an intern in the immigration issues office for Senator Ted Kennedy.
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Her father was an architect and they were not poor, they were middle class. Sergio Ocasio-Roman was a co-owner and CEO of an architectural practice that operated from a ground-level, 600-square-foot apartment in the 12,000-unit Parkchester condominium complex in the central Bronx.
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Like most recent college grads in NYC in the 2010s (and in many other eras) AOC needed to cobble together a number of sources of income to make ends meet, and in this case also help her mother. You cannot afford your own apartment in NYC on the typical salary of a beginning job with just a BA. She was lucky and had her father’s paid off 725 sq ft apt. Every single person I know who moved to NYC after college had to work many jobs to make ends meet. Among those extra jobs that she had were bartending in Manhattan and waitressing at a taqueria. She says she did not go to grad school at that time, which had been her plan, because of worries about student debt and her mother’s debt.
She also did things that she dreamed of doing as a young woman just out of college. She started a publishing firm, Brook Avenue Press the year after graduation. It focused on children's literature set in the Bronx—” a social enterprise dedicated to providing relevant educational products to children and parents in urban areas.” She worked for GAGE Strategies, Inc preparing curricula teaching entrepreneurial and self-presentation skills to young college students and graduates in the Bronx. She applied to and was admitted to Sunshine Bronx, a business incubator. She got a job doing educational outreach for the nonprofit National Hispanic Institute. She worked as an organizer for Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. The next year she started her run for Congress.
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The upshot is, while it makes a fun story to say she “just worked as a bartender” after college and then was in Congress, that is not really the case. She was working at a number of things in the years 2011 to 2017. For about 5 years she worked a bunch of gigs to do things she wanted to try out and to make ends meet and to help her mom avoid foreclosure and paying off student loans. It probably did help her with voters that she had some “real world” job experiences. A large number of the people in her district work in retail or food services. Crowley never worked before being elected.
From the first good quota answer I've ever seen
It seems to be relying heavily on her own hagiography, but still gives some insight. She has been very vague about precisely for how long she worked as a bartender in that 5 year period, that somehow manages to contain a good deal of jobs that would normally raise some eyebrows, especially from a sheepdog who started out as an intern for Ted Kennedy.
On the other hand it seems like her entrance into the inner circle of politics was thru the Sanders campaign in '16.
She seems to me to have been a sort of hustling type with an eye for a good opportunity, how best to market herself and what methods to use. It doesn't seem like she was entirely without scruples nor vice versa (whip up a slice of verse pie)
The "started from the bottom" prole picture that is often painted of her, isn't really true either, and her ideology doesn't seem to have been much more than expedient opportunism, though with some sense of having a line that she wouldn't cross and wether or not her living in the Bronx and being the child of an immigrant made her sympathetic to the movements associated to those experiences, or just aware of the fertile and unworked ground... Hard to say, I'm going to say both column B and A.
Now she herself has become the type of person that is vulnerable to an opportunist like she was back then. She is mired in DC, no longer able to see what plays well and what instrument it should be played on. She is firmly removed from the environment that gave her the necessary political insights and she is no longer a hustling up-and-comer hungry for more.
But she's also firmly entrenched now, so it doesn't really matter for her anymore.
Did she realize she enjoyed being a soulless ghoul?
Or was it all just a facade from the start?
Firmly these two, it was an act from the start, but the perks of DC only further solidified her true character
I think she honestly believed she could “work with” the party leadership to move them and the last six years have been her going deeper and deeper into sunk cost bias.
last six years
~what?~
started in 2019
oh my god
that last one
Because nothing bad happens under biden...like the genocide she has tacitly supported...
Outright admitting that she'd rather go to brunch than organize and lead actual change. Everytime I see this from libs (and their "leftist" groupies defending it) I debate voting for Trump so the libs want to fight. So far I always talk myself back to Claudia, but if I see this while standing in line I just might pull the trigger.
I understand the sentiment of wanting to spite them but they would prefer you vote for Trump because you would be the one person they can use to say that millions of leftists are just accelerationists, and then they can just dismiss everyone to the left of Dick Cheney forever
They say that with or without evidence. They dismiss us as wanting trump to win regardless
They don't even want to fight when the R's win. They just pretend to. Put on a big show, do a march here or there, some snarky comments, ripping up a piece of paper after a speech, and then VoTe bLuE
Lady, there's an ongoing USA facilitated genocide right now
TBF there was a lot of dumb lib resistance pink hat shit under Trump that engaged in performative mass movement politics without actually building any meaningful movement. If that’s what she’s talking about then fine. If she means “do we want to go back to brunch being interrupted?” then
performative mass movement politics without actually building any meaningful movement
Engaging in these things is an extremely key process in most people moving to more radical politics.
The bourgeois state is a filter with controlled "oppostion."
It's cliche at this point but wow the replies from all the hitlerites on X with blue checks..
Shang Tsung built his Soulnado in this reality beneath the Washington Monument
EDIT: shit, I thought this was someone SAYING THIS to AOC. this is a fucking QUOTE??!
“Pls dont make me do more crying photo shoots”