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My house is “at” the side of the road. But it’s “on” Doxxing Myself road. But I live “at” 123 Doxxing Myself Road. And Doxxing Myself Road is “in” White Picket Fencia. English is dumb.

Why don’t I live at 123 DM Road at white picket fencia at the side of the road at the country I live in at earth?

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[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

In Spanish it's like that. We barely distinguish between "on, at, in" and use "en" for mostly all of it.

"En la calle Doxx", "En el número 123 de la calle Doxx", "En Vallablanca de Enmedio".

Where's the ball? "En la mesa", because ffs it's a table, obviously on top of it. "En el cajón" because obviously it's INSIDE the drawer. "En casa" because it's definitely within the house. Etcetcetc

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

This is a bit incidental but Norwegian Wikipedia articles on various towns and cities in Norway will sometimes have a section in the infobox labeled "preposition" (preposisjon), because indeed in Norwegian you're sometimes "in" (i) a city and sometimes "on" () a city, and you just kinda have to memorize which cities are cities and which cities are i cities: it all comes down to tradition, and has to do with the etymologies of the place names, cities usually being named after farms, I believe.

Also, "at" the side of the road? It doesn't strike me as super weird, but I think I'd say "by" the side of the road, personally.

Also also, in my conlang I obviously made things much simpler by just using one preposition for more or less every locative sense.

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Wait til you find out Brits say "at hospital" vs "in the hospital"

[-] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

I asked a brit friend about this recently, according to her "at the hospital" means you are visiting, "in hospital" means you are a patient

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Basically the same in the US.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Don't Brits say "in hospital" not "at hospital"? Like I'm not an expert but I did watch a lot of Medlife Crisis way back when and I can't recall him ever saying "at hospital"

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I dunno but they drop the article and it's FRUSTRATING

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

It stands out to me but I'm not frustrated by it, I just think it's an interesting difference.

[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

in 'ospital

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Yes, English propositions are an infuriating part of speaking the language, even if I've been speaking it fluently for over 18 years.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

did ya ever notice how we drive on the parkway and park in the driveway

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

English is the language equivalent of code spaghetti.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Seems natural... clueless

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Ich wohne in dem Haus in der Doxx Street am Straßenrand, um die Ecke vom Marktplatz.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here's my guesswork for how they generally get used: "at" is for a specific location that could be represented as a point, usually when you're inside or at the edge of it, where it doesn't matter what part of it you're actually at, usually in the context of travel or giving directions. "on" is more for certain things that are large, where you're not trying to be specific, probably when you're literally on top of something or using it. In is when you're literally inside the bounds of something, but again it's relatively unspecific.

You can't use at when a thing has too large of borders. You can't use on when you're not on top of it. You can't use in when the thing doesn't have defined.

But I guess really it's like you've said. The meaning of each preposition is specific to the noun it is paired with.

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I’m “on” drugs but I’m “in” love shinji-jokerfied

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

You can be on love if you're Brit*sh. Or in drugs if you're rich.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

You can be on love if you're Brit*sh. Or in drugs if you're rich.

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