chapotraphouse

Yeah. I’m really really tired of liberal hypocrisy.

A common tactic applied by almost all populations is dehumanization so it makes it easier to “pull the trigger”. It’s a tactic that’s been applied and used for eons. The use is prevalent in history. Its psychology is also proven as you are less likely to be empathetic to something that is not human and a proven enemy. Aliens are a perfect example in science fiction they are often portrayed as the bad/enemy but in reality we are nothing but a xenophobic and warring species. District 9/ET shows the complexity.

No, you're valid as all hell. The devils want to destabilize the entire globe, and the truth is war and the fear of it sucks (especially as the west loves and is the real perpetrator of terrorism, whether that is with their beloved Zionists and daesh in the MENA, terrorists in the Sahel, those horrifying attacks on ethnic Russian civilians in Ukraine and then later in Russia itself, death squads in LatAm etc).

Honestly I get the apologies at the end (I've said similar when de-escalating from arguments that had racist shit- and then felt bad about even saying "sorry" at the end later upon reflection, like these fuckers won't give the same decency back). Don't be sorry. Fuck the west (I say as someone living in it). Fuck them (the broader society, heard people mald about "ohh noo so many of us are downtrodden POC etc" like no offense but it ain't on them and we all know it, and if they can't say "fuck the west" themselves maybe they should reflect on it), honestly one can't see their madness in the MENA, against Russia, in support of terrorists and fascists across the globe, and what they're seeking to do against China and ASEAN, and think that they get it, think that they can get it.

I'm glad that Iran is working ever closer with Russia, China, even India, etc. now. I'm glad that this time around- though things have escalated already to such horrific extents, because the west loves salami-slicing tactics and the imperialist mentality is wholly and utterly incapable of peace- that if shit truly comes to pass, the west shall have to live in even a fraction of the fear (it should be a hell of a lot more) that they orchestrate on a global level and particularly against the Muslim world.

I hope a broader war doesn't happen, but if it does this time around I hope the global majority sees to it that it's blood for blood, not engaging in nor condoning war crimes but the true experience of war and coming home (through state actions, not terrorism) may very well be the only thing that will kick some sense into the western devils. If they want to burn down Tehran, Beijing, Moscow, if they want to commit genocide on Palestinians or act like they own the Bab-el-Mandeb and terrorize the local Yemenis or talk about blockading the straits of Malacca, they should think twice. As said, I hope broader war doesn't happen but when and if it does I hope unlimited, infinite ICBMs rain down on the warmongering devils if they want their war so badly (which I suspect they do)

This is important for folks to hear, I’m very glad you shared it.

If you pointed this out, like I did, some people would get mad at you. Honestly I stand by one of my other comments telling another user here, that if they're so invested in this war they can join an organization or go fight on the front themselves.

Hypocritical too since one of the rightly favoured tricks when dealing with bloodthirsty pro-Ukraine types is telling them to go join the war. Wasn't very cool seeing people treat it like a sport or something.

the only real attacks on it's soil in the last 100 years being a military attack on a naval base in Hawaii and a couple of targeted terror attacks

Incidentally, your first example wasn't on American soil—occupied Hawaii was not absorbed into the Union until 1959.

It took a loooong time of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan being clearly a pointless quagmire for the bloodthirsty islamaphobia of post 9/11 to die down to a simmer. The only way for Americans to ever care about a war is if Americans are dying and it's not going anywhere. This comes at a massive cost to those they invade. Once Americans spend 10 years getting killed over this and not reaching any conclusive victory, the American people will mildly criticize it.

correct me if I'm wrong but I think you have to go back to the civil war, or if that doesn't qualify, the war of 1812

AKSHUALLLLYYYYY the Japanese did technically invade Alaska during the Aleutian Islands campaign in ww2 but your point still stands

Edit: yes I know it was a territory like Hawaii at the time but unlike Hawaii, Alaska is physically a part of North America. This made it seem much closer than when the Japanese attacked other pacific territories like Guam.

It was so intense, the anti-Muslim sentiment. I'm also in my 40s and I also remember it too well, unfortunately.

I remember arguing with my family why we shouldn't go to war with Iraq. I told them how it would kill tens of thousands of people (I was off by an order of magnitude). Iraqis and Muslims were referred to by them in slurs. Every bit of propaganda you've ever heard was mentioned. There was no getting through to them. It's probably one of the most radicalizing things I've ever seen first hand just how set they were in this. Like a switch had clicked on this topic and all you could hear was what was said in the news and from your worst coworkers in hushed tones.

But that's the kicker, these things weren't even said in hushed tones. You could be openly Islamophobic in public. You could use slurs in public against Arab peoples and get grunts of approval in the fucking grocery line at your local Piggly Wiggly. There was no mask. The only filter existed in liberal media and even then that filter was not N95, let me tell you.

What's strange is I did now an older guy who was a family friend who had retired as a sniper and decided to do the PMC (Private Military Contractor) thing in Iraq when it kicked off. Mostly escorting convoys and shit. You'd think he'd be hoorah but for him it was just a money thing. And when he came back he had more sympathy for Muslims and Iraqis. He had some wild stories and some people he worked with were actually Iraqi themselves (one guy was a former Mr Iraq body builder guy who sadly died in an IED ambush). I think Iraq either woke some people up to the humanity of the other or cemented it in their minds.

In rural areas it never really died. I moved away from rural Tennessee in '04 and Islamophobia showed no sign of abating. Talking to my mom/grandmother over the last year who live in North Tennessee and South Kentucky reinforces that. They still have that same fucking mentality. It might have cooled for a few years but all you need is some white people dying at the hands of a guy in a turban and the hate boils back over again. Really gross.

Agreed. Honestly many western ""leftists"" and ""progressives"" suck ass, even quite a few POC ones.

Don't remind me, sometimes I'd prefer if western leftists would forget we existed rather than try to help us and speak for us.

people on this site have been banned for criticizing users who called Hamas and Hezbollah "fascists"

western leftists love calling every single arab or muslim group or leader "fascist" and then hiding behind that, pretending they are progressive. This chauvinism isn't a bannable offense, but getting "hostile" in response to these racist shitheads is.

For example, look up the user ProxyTheAwesome in the mod log. Banned for mocking western chauvinists who called Hezbollah fascist a couple days before October 7th. Now that user is more pro-axis of resistance after being bullied by people like PTA, but that doesn’t change that the mods chose to ban the principled person and protect the chauvinist. Many such cases

Yeah, not sure your cultural background, but I know Sikhs were getting targeted by uninformed amerikkkans post 9/11.

i can relate. grew up muslim but not Arab and majority of Arabs in my masjid were white or white passing. me and my family unfortunately received a lot of phobic hate because we clearly did not pass as anything but brown and foreign and immigrated to the west literally in october 2001

Chinese people during Covid turned into anyone visibly Asian. They attacked anyone.